frankpalazzi

What gets sold?  What got sold?

Most likely Camp Wah-tut-ca in Northwood, New Hampshire.  Questions about the 2016 season have been answered with the "We haven't planned that far" song and dance, and e-mails and snail mails I've received seem to be promoting Camp Sayre and ignoring Wah-tut-ca.  Developers have been drooling over the waterfront property on Northwood Lake for years.  If I were a betting man........

I do hope I'm wrong about this.

Boston's Museum Of Science offers Scout-Level programs, and I believe even an overnight program!  Give them a call! Hartford is only about 90 minutes from Boston.

I don't allow this.  Every time I have approved it, I have regretted it.

 

Stosh

 

By the way, even if it is explicitly stated that the younger sibling must stay with the parent, it never works out that way.  They ALWAYS run off and become a problem.

 

Stosh

Oh yes.  Every. Single. Time.   It does a major disservice to the Troop.  And "disservice" is used in the G2SS.

@@frankpalazzi Welcome to the forum... I like you already.  

Thank you Stosh! I've actually been around for a while, though, old account: Frank Scout.  My old account got messed up somehow, I think deactivated.  We think very much alike, for sure!

Raise what you need, and spend what you raise!  Keep enough in reserve for startup at the beginning of the Scout year, and enough to replace all your equipment in case of catastrophe.

Don't expect a doctoral thesis, (as seemingly your CC does) these are teenagers we're talking about! Your SM is on the right track. There are no guidelines for this in the GTA. "Do Your Best" is the guideline here.

Where is any BSA Literature is a committee vote mentioned?

It's not and never was! All decisions are arrived at by consensus, or per order of the CO.

A few thoughts:

First, unless you are sponsored by a military installation that requires it, you don't need by-laws. Everything you need to run a unit is spelled out in BSA literature, including the Scout Oath and Scout Law. A SHORT list of "rules" for health & safety purposes are all you need. One page of Troop POLICIES are all you need. Know the difference between rules and policies! Rules are hard and fast. Policies can be adapted to each individual situation. By-laws serve no purpose but to perpetuate endless bickering and drama. This is a Scout troop, not Hewlett-Packard!

Second, Only the Scoutmaster has the authority to "remove" a youth leader from his POR. You will not find any reference to the committee being able to do so in any BSA publication, namely the Troop Committee Guidebook. Challenge your committee member(s) to show you this in print. They'll not be able to.

Man I missed a live one here. just about busted a gut laughing at post #5 and then the follow up.

 

Write this one down......I agree with baseball fan, as den leader I would approach the CC and CM about asking you and your boys to leave the unit. From the way it reads here I am sure they would support their DL, especially one with 3 years of tenure.

 

So the old tiger den leader who probably has held a total of 4 meetings is an organized stellar professional.

 

The old dirt bag bear den leader who has not collected a nickle in den dues for the last two years is a unorganized, money grubbing non professional....

 

slowly shaking my head, rubbing my temples

 

We are hearing less than 1/2 of the story here. I would love to read what the den leader has to say about his need for the dues.

 

Just so much to work with, must resist.......must resist.

 

 

YO, Bear Den leader if your reading this post up. I would love to read your side.

Been there, done that, left my unit this summer after being an adult leader of 34 years.

When you are no longer a Troop Committee Chairman, but an adviser of a drama club, it's time to go.

KDD's response to the OP was well thought out and appropriate.

BD, can I be your ASM?

I am having a hard time imagining anyone actually coming up to me to talk about how I'm wearing the uniform. Who actually does this? What positions do the hold?

 

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Usually someone who is un- or under-employed (too much time on their hands) and/or they have "control issues". Position doesn't matter. Smile, shrug it off, excuse yourself, and walk away.

OldScout448: We used a few drops of Elmer's Glue--washes right out afterward.

Agree totally. Our troop adds a thin black strip through our troop numbers to show mourning.

KDD, are you channeling Allan Sherman?

Who's name will be on the title for this vehicle? Will it be an individual or the CO? Technically' date=' troops don't own anything. The CO owns all of the troops equipment.[/quote']

 

And these worries are just the beginning! By the way, a BRAND NEW Thomas Safe-T-Liner School bus averages 8 miles per gallon (diesel). A fill-up will cost ya around $400. Bus fans are really better off chartering or look among your parents/ friends for someone who works for a school bus company. I've quite often offered my services and the company its bus for the troop--and all the troop had to do was replace the fuel used.

Yes, a skilled driver and proper maintenance is key.

The 15-16 seaters tend to be top-heavy and the suspensions wear quickly, so insurance companies aren't too fond of them.

Agree with SSScout, DON'T buy a bus!!! You WILL regret it! Search the topic for more info!

Fine tobacco' date=' tired fingers, and loose straps. 'Old' just doesn't quite say it sometimes.[/quote']

 

"LOL" You win!

LS/MFT.....has THREE meanings.....Who's old enough to know 'em all?

Scouts often lead flag ceremonies at political events and rallies (and then leave). Is carrying the lead flags of a parade considered a flag ceremony?

Absolutely not.

No callout last year' date=' lies from ass. chief(?) blah blah, no troop election this year. The only contact is when we initiate it, my son says OA also stands for Obama Administration, ... makes sense[/quote']

 

Trust me, they let themselves and your son's troop down more than your son.

 

How is this a bad thing? Either you have just learned that your peers have found something lacking in your behavior' date=' or - in the outside chance that you are God's gift to scouting kind - that your peers are idiots and instead of wasting your time in honor societies, you should devote the year to helping them be better scouts. [/quote']

 

I'm glad that post has a "like" button! There are plenty of OA members who will not be Eagle Scouts, and plenty of Eagle Scouts who will not become OA members. These are kids we're talkin' 'bout. They have their own way of doing things, and every Scout has something to contribute whether Tenderfoot or Eagle, sash wearer or not.

 

Our council used to have the Katherine Beich (sp?) candy bar program years ago. We found out that the distributor was located in the next town over...make a phone call, show up with a check, and back the pickup truck up to the loading dock.

 

I think you need to read the "Guide to Advancement, 2013 edition". It says that identifying at least one counselor is the responsibility of the unit leader.

 

 

"7.0.0.3 The Scout, the Blue Card, and the Unit Leader

A few merit badges have certain restrictions, but otherwise

any registered Boy Scout, Varsity Scout, or qualified

Venturer or Sea Scout may work on any of them at any

time. Before he begins working with a merit badge

counselor, however, he is to have a discussion with his unit

leader. That a discussion has been held is indicated by the

unit leader’s signature on the Application for Merit Badge,

No. 34124, commonly called the “blue card.†Although it

is the unit leader’s responsibility to see that at least one

merit badge counselor is identified from those approved

and made available, the Scout may have one in mind with

whom he would like to work. The unit leader and Scout

should come to agreement as to who the counselor will be.

Lacking agreement, the Scout must be allowed to work

with the counselor of his choice, so long as the counselor is

registered and has been approved by the council

advancement committee. However, see “Counselor

Approvals and Limitations,†7.0.1.4, for circumstances

when a unit leader may place limits on the number of merit

badges that may be earned from one counselor."

Correct! Otherwise...let's see....

When the scout needs a merit badge counselor the SM should say "Go find one." When the scout asks where, you tell him the District Advancement chairman has that. When he asks who that is or how to contact him, you say, "Go find him!"

Absurd.

Every unit leader and/or advancement chair should have a reasonably up-to-date list of counselors in their council. There is a reason that system is in place. You are NOT "doing the work for the scout," simply giving him names and numbers to contact which have been vetted by you.

That's right, vetted.

There are good MBCs out there as well as bad ones. You want your scout to have the best experience possible--which is why the current system is in place. The "go find one" method will more than likely result in a frustrated scout, and an incomplete, or most likely, not even attempted merit badge. One of the responsibilities of the adult leader is to guide the scout in the right direction, and that includes guiding him to an MBC which will be best for him.

I was getting ready to write almost exactly what Scoutnut wrote. Try it---it's worked for us for 43 years!

The troop should be providing the name/phone of a counselor or choice of counselors. A Scout should not have to "find" one. Worksheets are nice supplements for many badges, but are not official BSA and certainly are not officially required.