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ElyriaLeader

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  1. I know our council camp puts out a brochure for the camp sessions that has a list of what achievments/activity pins the boys will be working on while at camp, is there one of these available for this camp? have you seen it? or are these items in addition to the ones the camp already offers? camp staffs are usually pretty good at covering all the available items.
  2. Lisabob, check with the local flight schools, I'm pretty sure Duncan aviation has flight training at either Battle Creek or Kalamazoo, they might be able to do the simulator route with that many scouts.
  3. I actually had the SM bring the SPL and PL's to a couple of our den meetings to explain the responsibilities that each person has in the troop and the selection/voting process that they use to select the S/PL's, so the boys are aware of the differences.
  4. Mostly to get the boys used to the terminology/PL's giving instructions instead of adults, patrol structure, it allows us as leaders to give the boys the instruction list, then step back some so they can do it more on their own, more like Boy Scouts..less like Cubs..get them to start thinking less like they need parental/den leader help, I think it will make for a smoother transition for them later when they cross over...not quite so different...a little more familiar.(This message has been edited by ElyriaLeader)
  5. Right Lisabob, I was going to have the Denner/asst denners as the PL's, and refer to them as such, the adult leaders would be refered to as scoutmasters, the den chief either as the SPL or JASM haven't worked that one out quite yet, although I'm thinking the denner would be SPL, and asst denners as PL's, thus making the DC the JASM, Don't know for sure, I'll talk to the other Webelo's leader at roundtable and see how he's got it broken down, he says that the boys have really taken to it on the campouts he's gone on with some local troops and that the boys have almost seamlessly blended into th
  6. I went to have my drivers license renewed, the clerk puts all this paperwork (that has my name, address, phone #, drivers license # and SSAN) up on a counter with no dividers between clerks and calls my name, this guy at the next clerk grabbed my paperwork and walked out, I asked where my paperwork was and she says "well I put it up there, if you don't have it you'll have to get me all the information so we can reprocess you" I got mad because I now had a large amount of my personal info literally walking the streets and these people didn't care! Luckily the person who grabbed the paper was ho
  7. I don't remember summer camp in the 70's as Merit badge factories, if it had anything to do with the outdoors (other than winter sports/camp Alaska)or handicrafts, it was taught at summer camp. I also remember that to earn a merit badge you had to KNOW how to do something with PROFICIENCY, not just a glossing over!, my first year at camp I took home 3 partials, cooking, archery, swimming, and finished the cooking, and swimming later that year, the archery badge took me 3 years at summer camp to finish (had a tough time with the 20 yard targets and making the bowstring) although now it seems as
  8. I have had several boys as the "core" of the group since Tigers, we have since added several more boys to the den as they have progressed to webelos. I generally break the den meeting into 3 "subgroups" with each subgroup doing a different requirement, I have at least one but usually 2-3 parents running each subgroup. We cycle the boys through each subgroup thus each boy fulfills the evenings objectives. This system has worked well for me,the only difficult part was selecting the boys for the subgroups as I had to try and watch for any conflicts that may erupt. Having done this for a while I t
  9. Sorry folks, so used to hearing that from our "Disrict cub camping policy" let me rephrase that to read "check your local policies regarding webelos and winter camping"
  10. Like everyone else said, find a troop thats going out camping and see if they will allow you to tag along, just a reminder though...the Webelo's can't camp in tents under 40 deg. F though cabins would be fine.
  11. You definately need to have someone who is not engaged in this battle to take the ACM reins until the CM is back on his feet after dealing with his wifes cancer. And I also agree with BobWhite.
  12. Hopefully she left before causing any more of a disturbance. And hopefully that little tirade ended her "last chance" you spoke of, and the wheels are turning to have her removed from all interaction with the pack, while I feel for her son, and would hate loosing him as a scout, rather the 1 than the 5,10,20 others who might quit because of her increasingly poor behavior.
  13. I also really doubt if anyone would actually be in favor of an adult using profanity toward a youth under any circumstances. I never said anyone was in favor of this. Nor did anyone else on the thread as far as I can see. Th initial question was rather rhetorical. I didnt see it as rhetorical: Rhetoric (from Greek ῥήτωρ, rhtr, orator, teacher) is generally understood to be the art or technique of persuasion through the use of oral language and written language. Didnt notice any persuasion in the question, just someone seeking help with an answer. That means that this group has to
  14. I think a lot of people on this thread are missing the point by focusing on the language being used. But rather should be focusing on the adult verbally belittleing (some would insert the word "abusing" here) the scout, which is the only thing I can think was being done if he was using profanity, in which case the adult should be quietly taken aside and informed that he needs to: A)Never talk down to a scout, and especially not using profanity. B)Apologize to forementioned scout AND anyone who witnessed the outburst for his poor behavior. C)Reevaluate why he is in scouting for. And if this con
  15. Had the usual assortment of dirt bikes as a kid, YZ's up to 125, got a Suzuki TS400 at 16, and a Yamaha 550 Maxim when I was 18 (first year they were made) that one I still own. Current ride is a Kawasaki Vulcan Nomad 1500 with all the bells. Love the look on the kids faces when I roll up (appropriatley attired for riding) with my son on the back (appropriatley attired) for the den meeting, only problem is keeping him in leather jackets with the growth spurts!
  16. I allowed a snack at the end of the meeting from tigers through bears, though once they put on the checkered neckerchief I figured "they are now getting ready for being boy scouts" the troops I visit with don't have a snack sooooooo.....the boys missed it the first couple of meetings....and then haven't mentioned it since.
  17. Please pass on the heartfelt condolences from the scouting community to the family. Losing a child, even when it is not your own is hard to hear about.
  18. We have made a point of having a rapport/doing joint activities with the surrounding troops since the boys became webelos I, so the den knows the boys in the troops already, and have relationships between them. Most of my boys are already close to finishing their AOL (just waiting to meet the age/time since requirement) and at that time they will do the SM conference with the gaining troop, thus the gaining SM's have about a 6 Mo. window before the boys actually bridge.
  19. My Daughters crew just elected a young lady to the crew historian position, that way they can have one of the crew members clip news articles, and collect photos from everyone, rather than having one of the parents or advisors doing it. They want to take care of everything within the crew and we tell them "go for it"
  20. While I agree that the primary leader (DL,SM,CM) should be trained, but not so much for the assistant leaders, while it would be helpful I don't think that mandatory training for all leaders is the answer. My take on this is...if you agree to take the top position, then you are agreeing to take on whatever training is required for that position, not everyone has that additional time to devote to scouting but want to help out, and are real assets to the units they serve, so why force them out by mandating that they go to training? I have an assistant den leader who is an eagle scout, super know
  21. I, and I imagine most of the other people in scouting don't usually have a bunch of cash to put out on camping gear in one large chunk, but with the multitude of affordable equipment out there just about anyone can pick up a tent or two, and if they find they enjoy it then it's time to start saving up for the upgrade .
  22. Oh my, what if there was a rock in a snowball, or it broke Johnny's glasses.....Oh My...I hear the beat of the the legal vultures wings now...Just kidding, I'm glad that there are still some other leaders here that think that letting the boys (and venturing girls) have some fun "after" taking care of whatever business is at hand. Hats off to all of you that keep scouting "fun"
  23. 150,000 yards of bubble wrap to surround scouts with so no one falls and hurts themselves - $5,000 25 pairs of glasses with side blinders to keep all participants eyesight focused straight ahead - $2,500 1 case of being overly concerned about the legal "boogeyman" and thus removing all vestiges of "fun" from the outing that could have been? - Priceless!
  24. For the first time using knives we removed the serrations from plastic knives and let the boys carve up lots of soap, as they got used to the proper handling we moved on to scout type pocket knives and blocks of basswood (this was as bears) now as webelos I had some new boys join the den, I asked if any of the "experienced" scouts wanted to teach the new boys about knife safety, several hands went up, I had the ADL chose who he felt best about, webelo scout went on to give an EXCELLENT presentation (requiring no adult interjection or physical help) on knife safety to the new scouts (all under
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