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  1. 3 points
    My takes: peer to peer recruitment is practically dead Troops rely solely on AOL crossovers Packs keep dying off. Less Cub Scouts eventually mean less Scouts BSA Members Reluctance to recruit new members outside of Packs.
  2. 3 points
    Not True. Volunteers always know before Council Employees lol. One of the reasons i'm on this board, actually.
  3. 3 points
    A woman brought a very limp duck into a veterinary surgeon. As she laid her pet on the table, the vet pulled out his stethoscope and listened to the bird's chest. After a moment or two, the vet shook his head and sadly said, "I'm sorry, your duck, Cuddles, has passed away." The distressed woman wailed, "Are you sure?" "Yes, I am sure. Your duck is dead," replied the vet. "How can you be so sure?" she protested. "I mean you haven't done any testing on him or anything. He might just be in a coma or something." The vet rolled his eyes, turned around and left the room. He returned a few minutes later with a black Labrador Retriever. As the duck's owner looked on in amazement, the dog stood on his hind legs, put his front paws on the examination table and sniffed the duck from top to bottom. He then looked up at the vet with sad eyes and shook his head. The vet patted the dog on the head and took it out of the room. A few minutes later he returned with a cat. The cat jumped on the table and also delicately sniffed the bird from head to foot. The cat sat back on its haunches, shook its head, meowed softly and strolled out of the room. The vet looked at the woman and said, "I'm sorry, but as I said, this is most definitely, 100% certifiably, a dead duck." The vet turned to his computer terminal, hit a few keys and produced a bill, which he handed to the woman. The duck's owner, still in shock, took the bill. "$150!" she cried, "$150 just to tell me my duck is dead!" The vet shrugged, "I'm sorry. If you had just taken my word for it, the bill would have been $20, but with the Lab Report and the Cat Scan, it's now $150."
  4. 3 points
    Let’s focus on our reality. We have girls in this country who crave adventure and challenge. Let’s work on extending our program to them in a way that is a credit to our personal sense of service and our larger hopes for the nation’s future. Nobody can propose a better place for these young women to discover their futures. Nobody.
  5. 3 points
    There is no prohibition. I applaud the focus on adventure where advancement (specifically T-fC ) is a by-product and not the goal. However I would be cautious about the "launching a program..." because this sounds like an adult designed, adult planned, and executed program. The scouting program us supposed to be planned and executed by the scouts at the patrol level. Advancement, specifically mBs are supposed to be chosen, planned, etc... by the individual scouts.
  6. 2 points
    If I'm 'waiting with baited breath', does that mean that I have to put worms in my mouth? Do Red Wrigglers taste better than Night Crawlers?
  7. 2 points
    I volunteered as an MBC because I feel boys are underserved. Nothing against girls in BSA but I would rather spend my limited time on boys.
  8. 2 points
    I'm a simple person - but gotta admit that I'm not following you here.. My daughters as GS/USA members - so if you perceive a slight in my comments, it's not intentional. What I have come to realize is that the GS/USA programs and structure are largely different from the BSA program. The GS/USA system is probably more flexible than the BSA model - but many of the GS/USA troops out there are focused differently than BSA troops. I've also witnessed first hand successful community troops for girls. It has convinced me that the best way to build up troops for girls is to start focused, community based troops. As they become successful and reach saturation point, then we can start more. But, I'd rather see 1 troop of 25-30 girls than 5 troops of 5 girls.
  9. 2 points
    Because our GS/USA troops are outstanding, and I don't want to jeopardize my cookie supply chain.
  10. 1 point
    https://www.rei.com/product/168564/rei-co-op-flash-air-1-tent https://www.rei.com/product/168565/rei-co-op-flash-air-2-tent REI will likely have these on sale at some point. These look like a great deal and are really light, particularly if you use trekking poles. Definitely a BIG weight savings over a Philmont tent.
  11. 1 point
    Perhaps after more trees are shaken... This week I received a Council notice regarding Council creating an Ad Hoc Committee complete with an attorney to "contribute funds". Here is a snippet from the FAQ: Is our council participating in the Ad Hoc Committee? What are the implications if we do/don’t? The national organization has facilitated the creation of an Ad Hoc Committee of local councils that will participate in its continued evaluation of this potential path forward. The Ad Hoc Committee will have an ongoing voice, as a group, in any restructuring considerations. The Ad Hoc Committee will give councils access to more detailed information on financial considerations and insight from their own representatives. It will allow councils to gather information and substantively and collaboratively engage with the process. Working with the Ad Hoc Committee does not obligate our council to contribute funds to this effort. Each council is an independent nonprofit organization separate from the national organization. To reiterate: The decision of whether our council contributes to a potential victims’ compensation trust will be made by each individual council board after careful consideration. Are our local assets such as properties/camps at risk? Any path pursued will ensure that we are able to continue delivering programming in our community for many years to come. We believe our properties and camps are important components of this programming. Any decisions regarding our properties and camps will be based on our ongoing efforts to manage our local Scouting resources wisely IMHO, the ongoing Diocese of Rochester Chapter 11 bankruptcy case may serve as a model if and when the BSA files Chapter 11. So far, Judge Paul Warren has denied their insurance company arguments regarding exemptions (e.g., no payout if Council was aware), appointed a U.S. trustee so the Diocese is not "debtor in possession", and a creditors committee comprised of diocese abuse survivors. Unknown whether an IRS audit will occur and financial considerations of diocese employees (health insurance, severance,...). https://rochesterbeacon.com/2020/01/02/the-rochester-dioceses-unique-case/ My $0.01,
  12. 1 point
    I agree with @Navybone On this topic, I would only try to bring it back to the initial line of discussion in the thread to say that I believe it's important for Councils to remember that our roles here are to deliver the Scouting program to Scouts. For most of us, we got involved with a specific unit to help there. Sure, most of us are willing to help another unit from time to time when asked. But, there are practical limits to that. I believe councils need to tread very lightly in how they conscript unit level volunteers into council level programs.
  13. 1 point
    When a Scouts BSA Troop forms in our area, it has not detracted from the local GSUSA units. In fact, in our city both programs are growing. There was an initial push-back from some of the GSUSA volunteers who thought we might be trying to strip-away their members, but this has just not occurred and their initial opposition to us has abated (at least among their volunteers). What has occurred is that girls who join our three Scouts BSA Troops for Girls are looking for something distinctly different from the GSUSA program. I'd let the girls speak for themselves, but believe a key difference is that we are intensely outdoor oriented in an urban environment (summer camp, seven 2-night weekend campouts, multiple day hikes and the great Scouts BSA outdoor advancement skills). We are careful to avoid characterizing the GSUSA program, but the local groups do not engaging outdoor programming anywhere approaching what we are doing. Several of our Scouts belong to both programs and, in their view, do not see much overlap. So, I encourage those who think the GSUSA units fully-serve the needs of girls in your area to re-assess your views. The market for youth program is vast and our ability to provide units is limited. It is always best to provide options for these girls if we have the capability to offer a unit.
  14. 1 point
    @prof, the GTA does permit a troop to limit the number of badges a scout can earn from one counselor (and also the council can limit the number of badges a single counseleor counsels. ) From the Guide to Advancment ( https://www.scouting.org/resources/guide-to-advancement/the-merit-badge-program/ )
  15. 1 point
    I would have possibly thought the same thing, what possibly could the issue be?? That is until I had a conversation with some of our council professionals about the leader requirement for girl troops, had to have a female. I felt that was gender biased as no requirement for a male leader for boy troops. Why can't two dads of girls BSA members be the leaders? So the professionals go into a dissertation about statistics, and adult male incidents with females, etc etc. My initial feedback was "well they should be following YPT so what would the issue be?". Then some doublespeak on optics and stats, and historical cases studies yada yada. Then I said so "Basically you (The BSA) do not trust male leaders", more double speak, etc. Not saying I agree or disagree with what they said / believe - but after that exchange...not sure what to think but would err on the side of caution.
  16. 1 point
    IMO a SE that would sign off on a 2 person troop is more concerned with numbers of units vs getting these two into a troop with an operating program. The number of adults on a charter should not be twice as many as the number of scouts.
  17. 1 point
    It's a whole lot easier to walk up to a parent with a kid in the troop, ask them their interests, and then get them to be a merit badge counselor. Hey, Mr. Smith I hear you are an arborist. Would you be willing to be a forestry merit badge counselor? I see that your son has been working on several merit badges already. It's free of charge and the rewards are huge. Since it is a role where you'll interact with kids directly we'll need you to fill out this application and take the online YPT class.
  18. 1 point
    I think we may be talking about troops of different size. Our troop, for example, has 75 scouts. That's a hundred troop parents and other adults who almost never camp with the troop or serve as a leader in another capacity. Some benefits: Provides for a healthy supply of merit badge counselors. Having those parents engaged in the merit badge program is a great way for a parent who doesn't otherwise help out to contribute. Serving as a MBC can often be the first step towards a larger role in Scouting. Just my .02. Rather than seeing councils scaling back, I'd rather see councils out looking at what units like ours are doing and them attempting to build off that. Our merit badge program has been pretty successful for us. It's also very easy to replicate in other, smaller troops. Then those smaller troops could work together to build up a larger, district merit badge program. This would be a great way to see volunteerism grow and a stronger merit badge program in a district.
  19. 1 point
    Troop MBCs make me question the value of the merit badge program. I'm okay with the troop having some MBCs and such. But when a troop has an inventory of MBCs for key badges, ... imho ... it really hurts the value of the MBC program. The MBC program is about getting the scout out of his comfort zone and learning something new ... AND working with someone new. When the scout mostly works with troop MBCs, the MBC program really changes from an individual scout focus into a troop run program. IMHO, it fully subverts the program.
  20. 1 point
    I can personally attest that is in fact the case. Lasted a couple of years. Immediately went back to volunteering with units and never looked back. You become a DE and Professional Scouter to (naively thinking) work with units, camp, become the Scouting expert. In reality you are pushing paper, have key 3 meetings with volunteers, doing a lot of planning, raising money, sweating membership numbers, following up on what volunteers haven't done, etc etc. Never really see a Scout, at camporees and summer camp it's all about the problems or a volunteer bending your ear over some issue. Scouting fun is best experienced at the unit level. That's where the best times are.
  21. 1 point
    It's ironic that the BSA claims it knows how to develop leadership.
  22. 1 point
    To boldly camp where most will not camp anymore!
  23. 1 point
    A lady I know has a daughter who teaches at a small, indigent elementary school outside one the Navajo reservations in New Mexico. When I heard about the difficulties they have gathering resources and helping the children who attend that small facility, my heart went out to them. So when I heard they had almost no books in their school library, I put on a combined book drive with five other packs to collect gently used books they could enjoy and use for their education. I set a date for the book drive to coincide with our monthly pack meeting, and then sent information to everybody on every roster of every pack - every Scout was asked to gather and collect as many books as he could during the month leading up to the event. I also offered contest medals to the three Cub Scouts who collected the most books, and a pizza party to the den with the most (cost of the prizes = $25 total). At the combined pack meeting, the books were counted by helpful Boy Scouts as each boy brought in his box or bag or handful of books. The winning Scout brought in over 300 books, and in total we were able to donate more than 4,200 books to the school so that they could enjoy the benefits of a real, functional library. We took pictures of the Scouts and their collections, and then all the Scouts helped box the books and load them into the lady's truck. They were delivered the next week when she went to visit her daughter. In return, the teachers sent us wonderful letters from the school children thanking us for the books. All I did was then enter the appropriate information into the JTE website, and as a result, every participating Cub Scout, Scouter, and Boy Scout received a Messengers of Peace ring. It was simple, easy to organize, and had a powerful impact on both communities. I believe that's the spirit of the award.
  24. 1 point
    I made the donation some years ago and received the James West knot. A good friend was FOS chairman and was looking for donors. Scouting had been a major influence on my life and I was more than willing to contribute whatever I could. It's no different than being willing to give my time. The uniform I normally wear has only my Arrow of Light and Eagle knots. I do have another shirt with all of them. I wear it "sometimes". Knots are not why I am a Scouter, but I am not ashamed of my accomplishments, either. Maybe seeing the depth of my involvement might encourage another Dad to get involved. Maybe it will encourage another Scouter to get a little MORE involved. Maybe seeing the James West knot will get someone to thinking that not only rich guys can make donations. When I make FOS presentaions, wearing the West knot shows I personally believe in what I am asking others to do. So, there are many reasons to wear the West knot which don't involve bragging. Ken
  25. 1 point
    Oh one more thing about West Fellowship. I was told, don't remember who or when though, that the West Award and the follow ons ; Heritage Society and Founders' Circle, were created to recognize big donors with those awards instead of Silver Beavers. Folks in the field were complaining that big donors kept getting the SBs and not the folks in the field. Again this is what I was told.