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  1. Good points. And so the leaders (i.e. Scouts elected to lead) decided to remove the "sliders" from each tent rope and scheduled tent-pitching amd tarp-pitching contests as "gathering time activities."
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  2. As a long time Gallagher fan, it think he might have something to say about it if Weird Al decided to smash a watermelon with a sledgehammer. 😜
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  3. Officials of several other denominations — including the Southern Baptist Convention, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) — have advised their churches to hire their own legal counsel if they fear possible sex-abuse litigation. The Presbyterian Church said its national leadership can't act on behalf of member churches because they are separate corporations. The leadership of the Evangelical Lutheran church also said its congregations were on their own, legally speaking, and must decide for themselves whether to continue any relationship wi
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  4. I have been following this thread and others similar to it for some time. Let me tell you "some" of my story... My perpetrator is in the BSA IV Files and was barred from BSA. There are multiple victims (not including myself) spread amongst multiple BSA troops. My CO, LC and BSA were aware of the "propensity" of my perpetrator to victimize young boys but each turned a blind which is why # 1 & 2 above conditions exist. Law enforcement got involved 2 decades ago. Hopefully, in the near future when I am in state court (NO SOL), the judge will explore why my CO and LC d
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  5. I have often said a PL could run their patrol just by following the (older) Fieldbook in order.
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  6. "The United Methodist Church — which says up to 5,000 of its U.S. congregations could be affected by future lawsuits — recently advised those churches not to extend their charters with the BSA beyond the end of this year. The UMC said these congregations were "disappointed and very concerned" that they weren't included in the July deal. Everett Cygal, a lawyer for Catholic churches monitoring the case, said it is unfair that parishes now face liability "solely as a result of misconduct by Boy Scout troop leaders who frequently had no connection to the parish." "Scouting can only be d
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  7. That's why it's critical that the older scouts who have mastered these skills be allowed to instruct and sign off. Scouts get quite enough of adults droning on and on at school. "He who teaches, learns twice"
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  8. And we thought things were bad when the LDS church jumped ship...
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  9. I think you've got it backwards. People haven't stopped using council camps because they aren't well maintained. The council camps aren't well maintained because people have stopped using them.
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  10. What does that look like in your eyes? This is a great question and was asked to me by my therapist and honestly I had no real answer. In the context of how this bankruptcy is unfolding I think there will never be enough monetary compensation to make a difference. It appears at this juncture that I as an abused will have no real recourse but just to accept whatever will awarded to me and what that amount will be is anyone's guess. From what I have read and all that I can glean from comments and lawyer statements it looks like I will be asked to vote for something that really prom
    1 point
  11. Modern tents are almost knot free. Teaching scouts to make a shelter with tarp and ropes gives them a life skill.
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  12. Concur. But you have hit the essence of this...wants versus needs. You can have anything you want, as long as you are willing to pay the price for it. Generally, I believe by focusing too much on the "wants" the BSA has unfortunately sometimes let "needs" go by the wayside.
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  13. Part of the problem, too, is that we are trying to create these country-club type experiences for people. Swimming pools, air conditioning, hot showers and flush toilets, climbing towers, ATV programs, bicycle liveries, STEM centers with computer labs, bands, fireworks, catered food service...sorry, but we have lost the bead on what a week under canvas is supposed to look like. How much does a wilderness camp cost to maintain?
    1 point
  14. In other words, it is the same plan that BSA has for its campgrounds.
    1 point
  15. This gets back to Kosnoff's Fantasy that all 82,500 victims can go back to state court tomorrow and sue, sue, sue. As noted, over 50,000 claims are time barred. So no Mr. Kosnoff, you are simply wrong. So this "let's go back to state court" idea may sound and work great for SOME claimants, but for the vast majority, not so much. This simply borders on what I've described before as magical or wishful thinking. Kosnoff's never, ever provided a LEGAL argument for why 50,000+ statutes of limitation suddenly disappear overnight.
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  16. Certainly Mr. K. knows what a lying liar sounds like, as he is the poster boy.
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