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    Agreed on the cost. We, the pack, hand down neckerchiefs den by den. The pack buys extras when needed but for the most part we already have enough inventory. We don’t use hats or worry about specific belt buckles. We use jeans for pants as the Cubscout pants are made for giants. When our dens advance we perform a neckerchief ceremony... which is pretty simple. Our Tigers take off their necker and place it on the Lions... and that continues. So far we are sticking with the yellow wolf neckerchiefs but we will probably change this fall when Lions have yellow neckerchiefs.
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    Issue is with large packs. I have 80 Scouts and would like to direct them to their den line for various reasons. Neckerchief color is a great way to quickly and easily see a “lost” scout.
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    And I agree that they should change the neckerchief to red to match the traditional/current color of the patch. Today is confusing for some parents ... I have had some question the yellow neckerchief color. I was never a fan of the Wolf mix of colors (yellow hat/necker but red patch). Today we have Lions Yellow Patch, No Necker Tigers Orange Patch, Orange Necker Wolves Red Patch, Yellow Necker Bears Blue Patch, Blue Necker Webelos Tan/Blue Patch, Plaid Necker w/Webelos Logo Future we will have: Lions Yellow Patch, Yellow Necker Tigers Orange Patch, Orange Necker Wolves Red Patch, Red Necker Bears Blue Patch, Blue Necker Webelos Tan Patch, Plaid Necker w/Webelos Logo Seems to make sense. Understand that transitions will take time and we should allow those to use up their old uniforms/patches. That said, having patches, hat, necker & book colors align makes those aspects of the program easier to communicate to families new to BSA. This isn't life or death or really that critical, but I can completely see where National is coming from with this change.
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    This sounds about like what I would expect. BSA attempts to conform to liberal social values will not halt membership declines. Activists will always have another ax to grind. Any gains from liberal/progressive families (who generally have fewer kids) will not be enough to replace the losses from conservative/traditionalist families who quit the movement. May I suggest that this tangent discussion belongs over in the Issues and Politics section?
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    His LDS granddaughter could always be a Scout. It's called Girl Scouts USA. Yes - interesting. Not every LDS Scouter thinks as I do. Not every non-LDS Scouter thinks as you do.
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    I don't think it's foolish at all. Pretty smart, actually. Wolves have been the only rank that has the primary "brand" colors of Cub Scouts as their rank colors. Now we have blue and gold as the overall Cub Scout colors, and we distinguish all ranks individually with their own unique colors. Wolves now have a rank color that is truly unique to them, they're not sharing colors with the whole pack.
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    The neckerchief (and the whole uniform for that matter, but that's another topic) seems to be in kind of a weird place in Scouting history right now. Today it's smaller and less useful than ever, and frankly I think in some cases it looks silly. I saw a photo of some scouts in uniform recently and their neckerchiefs didn't even come halfway down the front of the shirt. I wish US scouts wore the neckerchief more often and especially when out of uniform, but that doesn't even seem practical when the neckers are so small.
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    I can sympathize with your situation. I can also understand why you and he want to be active in this aspect of your scout's life. But, let's keep in mind that scouting is not for us. It isn't for the adults or the parents or our close loved-ones. It is for the kids and there may be, and will be circumstances where we do things for the kids that may either disadvantage the adults or otherwise not be in the adults best interests. If you and your boyfriend feel this strongly about him being an attending adult in activities then I encourage you to do two things. 1. Have him register as an adult volunteer. 2. Have him request an expungement and/or a pardon. This could a strong life lesson for your scout as well as other scouts in the unit. Demonstrate that he is taking the steps to correct his prior transgressions and that he is willing to do the hard work necessary to be an active member of the unit. Lastly, this isn't about what the other adults do in their personal time or what they might be guilty of. This is and should be about your boyfriend "doing his best" to be the best role model he can be to your scout and if that means his involvement is limited due to past behavior (even past behavior that might otherwise be legal today in some states), then what better way to illustrate that actions have consequences and that sometimes life is not fair. How the two of you respond to this situation can either be an exceptional opportunity for growth or an exceptional opportunity to create resentment.
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    The major point here for me (setting aside the criminal record for a moment) is that this is your boyfriend. He is not a parent, step-parent, legal guardian, or registered adult leader. For this reason alone he should not attend a cub function unless invited by the cubmaster and only within his /her parameters. I think you might be focusing too much on the criminal record piece and missing this important facet.
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    The judge didn't think so. The newspaper didn't think so. The scout unit didn't think so. I think it is time you wake up and smell the coffee. A felony conviction is not insignificant.
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    Your boyfriend and son wouldn’t be allowed to share a tent or anything either since he is not a legal family member. It’s really up to the cibmaster and committee since he really has no right to be there since it’s not his son. Not saying it’s right, but saying how I interpret the rules.
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    Well, this thread's gone bust.
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    No and yes. The roots of LNT start with the BSA and Bureau of Land Management in the 80's. In the 90's NOLS took over with the US Forest Service. Other government partners joined. Government funding of these education programs was always a problem. which lead to the creation in 1994 of LNT, a non-profit educational program which marketed courses to many groups including the BSA. More details at this link. https://lnt.org/sites/default/files/Leave_No_Trace_History_Paper.pdf
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    Absolutely not. Living in a large manufacturing area, we get families with parents in engineering, design, and computer programming from all over the word that come and work in the States for a few years before returning to their home country.
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    I would tell the Scouts they have the option of saying what they want there, within reason obviously. This also raises the question of why "As an American" is in there at all. The Scout Oath and Law do not specify what the speaker's nationality is. One should respect the outdoors not because one is an American, but because one is a human being.
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    @Eagle1993 Planning? That mainly consists of cutting noodles and buying supplies. We already have a gutter raceway built. Two 15 ft lengths sealed on the ends, mounted on a frame. They sit on sawhorses. Day of? I allow 2-3 hrs for the event. A come and go affair. We also set up our air rocket launchers for additional fun. It's more of a mixer than a competition. Returning Scouts reconnect, new Scouts and families see our group and get an intro to our Pack.
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    Our Pack had instituted RR as some summertime event where boys got the balsa wood kit the day of the event and went at it right there and then. By the time we got around, it was usually 4-6 boys participating. If you even knew it was happening. Very dispiriting. I changed it to the first Pack-wide event after recruiting was done. A way for new and old to meet and introduce people. But the kits were problematic. So we did away with them. Donated pool noodles cut in half length wise, approx 10" long serve as hulls. Bendy Straws and foam sheets are masts and sails. Pencils and dowels make the holes in the materials. Stickers and markers personalize the craft. And they all fit in the actual gutters we use. Multiple revisions ensue throughout the day. No organized races, no trophies, no awards. Just boys building, experimenting, competing against one another. They make up the agreed upon "rules" of the day. They decide who and how they race. Nobody walks away unhappy. The thrill in crafting a boat that floats and can be propelled down the raceway is the goal. Learning from and comparing to other boys adds to the fun. It's a great start to the program year and involves none of the hassle and officialdom that dominates PWD.
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    Well those are 1984-85 prices. You are gonna need a Delorean.
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    Not a uniform item... We moved in the late 70's and in the rafters of the basement of our new house were two things. A 4-ft tall wooden obelisk with hand-carved and painted merit badge emblems and names of the patrol members that made it in the 1930's. It had about 30 years of dust on it. It happened that one of those names was the current SM of the troop I was joining. I brought it to my first meeting and it stayed in a place of honor in the Scout room thereafter. His shock at seeing it again was priceless. I can only imagine the effort it took to make it. Truly wonderful. The other item was of the same vintage. A solid metal Vaughn BSA Saf-T-Head hatchet. Still have it, still use it.
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    I carry the Scout camp knife I had as a Scout. The only time I don't have it with me is when I am at airports since 9/11. My service stars from my scout days are still on my uniform today. The State strip from my scout historic uniform is the same one I had as a kid, I have changed out the community strip however. The pup tent I used as a scout is now used as a ground cloth to protect the floor of my tent or serve as a floor to my current military pup tent. My scout handbook is still on the shelf on my den.
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    I enjoy the vintage versions of things as well. I picked up a 1970's version of the SM leaders patch. Hopefully, a previous SM left some luck in it. While not something to wear, I picked up the 1938 version of the Handbook for Scoutmasters. I've been looking for the red wool jacket lately. Sadly, no stories behind them, just cool old things.
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    It may not be me wearing them, but my boys are wearing my Cub scout neckers and my webelos colors from when i was a kid.
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    Wood Badge may do many things, depending on the quality of the Staff. It teaches the Patrol Method hardly at all and emphasizes the "troop method." Let's bounce Wood Badge III against BSA's EDGE method. EXPLAIN In what session are the elements of the Patrol Method explained to the participants? As those elements have not appeared coherently in BSA literature in decades, it is hardly surprising that the answer is "Nowhere." Example: The Scout primarily experiences Scouting in the context of his patrol. DEMONSTRATE Are the patrols largely self-selected groups of friends? Do the participants spend most of their time in separate patrol activities? Does learning primarily take place in a patrol setting vs a troop setting? Do the participants democratically plan the program for their respective patrols and, through their elected representatives, for the troop as well? Do the participants elect the SPL? Are the PLs elected by the other members of their respective patrols? Who primarily directly leads, the PLs and the SPL they elect or the adult analogs, the Staff? Does Troop 1 exist for the administrative convenience of the patrols or visa-versa? GUIDE You cannot "guide" what is not allowed to happen. I am told that "guidance" happens in the PLC meetings. Not only is that guidance primarily about troop leadership, which is secondary to patrol leadership in Boy Scouting, but most of the decisions have already been made by the "adults." After all, the "adults" know best. The remit of the PLC is to decide limited issues from among a choice set supplied by the "adults." (Do I propose that learners or trainees plan their training? That would be interesting to try, but no. Just don't claim this training primarily or even significantly trains in the Patrol Method by example or by doing unless you are prepared to show how that is true.) ENABLE What are the PLs enabled to do as leaders as a percentage of what is going on? One of them is PL when their patrol plans its "backpacking" menu and patrol gear (See the wagon-loads of gear rumbling down the road.). Hardly planning the "what, where, and when," only planning the details of what the "adults" have planned. He or she could also lead planning the patrol project, the "adults" already having decreed that there should be a "project" and the timing of it. The patrol's choice how to comply with the "adults" vague charge OR, inconceivably in this authoritarian setting, whether to face the consequences of not obeying the "adults." Far from a "school of democracy." I submit that the claim that Wood Badge teaches the Patrol Method is indefensible. A far better argument is that It teaches the adult-run troop method. It teaches other things and those primarily by lecture, a path we have been warned against since B-P started the hike. More school than learning by doing - more school than Scouting. The "mountain top" is far away. It does serve as a very good tool for networking and the topics taught are significant and useful, just in isolation from the Patrol Method (and, really, the Outdoor Method). Perhaps the current review will turn Wood Badge into something greater.
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