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This is the prerogative of the CC if the COR agrees with them (or if they are the COR). It may destroy the unit, but they do have that authority.

I agree, there is potential for conflict there, but you also must consider the fact that the pool of buyers for properties that cost >$4.5 million is pretty shallow. Having a board member with a real estate development business (or even developer friends) likely expedited the sale and provided immediate liquidity to the council. It's then incumbent upon the remaining board members to ensure the council received fair value for the property. The role of a Board is clear to me, but who selects the Board in most councils? In a public corporation, shareholders at least have some recourse to

@Brannigan, Did council remove the person, or the CC remove them? I ask because when a similar situation occurred, I was told "Council does not get involved unless something criminal happens." If council removed them, then something more happened, and charges may be forthcoming.

There are some apps that track this. I just started looking into it myself so I can't recommend one yet but I am looking for one that gives an audible signal, not just something I have to keep looking at on my phone. Merlin is enough of a distraction.

The reality - conflict of interests. There should be no business transactions between Board Members and Council. One example from a year ago. "To preserve the open space (Deer Lake), Pathfinders had to top an offer that looked for a time like it would carry the day. In the spring, the Scouts’ Connecticut Yankee Council announced it was selling the land for $4.62 million to a major real estate developer, Margaret Streicker, who is also a board member of the council." https://www.courant.com/2022/08/13/deal-near-to-preserve-deer-lake-in-killingworth-as-open-space/

No. Based on what you have said, there would be no grounds for removal. One does not get removed for “bad leadership” as you say.

And, for all I have read about National's modus operandi in these matters, and local councils' complicity therein, councils are now complicit in that fraud in disclosure and have huge legal liability exposure. Councils took the easy course mandated by National and may well pay the price.

Been there. Done that, except at the council level. National saw it my way and retired the council exec. Not fun, but necessary. These things do not play out according to organization flow charts, Robert's Rules, or the Queensberry Rules.

When I first read the BSA trustee's objections to non debtor releases, I was persuaded. I do not expect them (non debtor releases) to be upheld. That's where I place my marker on this issue. Just my legal judgment. (Scouting has been of huge importance for me in my youth, and as a parent. The Program is great; National's handling of abuse issues is a terrible failure. If only we could separate National from the movement's ideals.) The BSA trustee's legal objections are very serious, legally. And the SCt seems to think so, too.

It could also mean that the Supreme Court wants to resolve a known conflict among the appellate courts. The Supreme Court recognizing that the conflict has grown to such dimensions that it is "ripe" (not in a purely technically, legal sense) to be resolved by the Supreme Court. The SCt tends to let conflicts among the appellate courts develop to a point where there has been sufficient exposition of the issues in the lower courts to step in and bring it all to a head and set a rule. Absolutely agree. More discussion below. Again, absolutely agree. The SCt taking up

I appreciate the compliment. I'll take them when I can get them! Been on the phone today with legal people far smarter than I am. The consensus....if the Supreme Court thought Third-Party releases were such a good idea then it wouldn't have taken up the case. Not good for the BSA's plan. Also, this is not a "Sackler-Specific" issue. It's all about interpretation of the bankruptcy code regardless of whether a wealthy family is involved. Had it not been the Sacklers it could have been the BSA's case to push this to the Supreme Court. It's been brewing a long time. The only way this goes

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Poppycock. The legal system found BSA with it's huge insurance and property assets liable. In the same context, the parents, police, schools and the rest of society covered up too. The issue is legally tying liability to all the other conspirators. This was looting for legal profit.

Part of the broader issue. While your comments are indicative of some very poor decision making, it is not the whole picture over the history of the program. For some reason, the FACT that the IV files were even created should be a positive piece of this, especially since there are instances where the intent of the files did what was needed. This was at a time when few, if any other groups were even trying to find a solution. Let us not minimize the larger society's poor response and even greater evidence of hiding issues, especially where money or political power was involved. BSA is not

Unless there is a YPT or safety violation.... Council doesn't care about your issues with other leaders. What "tools" in Scoutbook are not being utilized?>

My two cents is that email, websites, or any method where the only medium is the written word, is not a great form of communication. Because so much of effective communication is non-verbal, it can be very difficult to understand any nuance. An example is that sarcasm is rarely effective in email or a site like this. What is the mood of the reader, what else is going on, what did they just read - all can impact how written communications is ready. In the example here, I totally agree that is could be received as unprofessional. But was it meant that way. btw, this is always a

Kleenex? No... You got a negative reply from me for your post: "Well, this conversation appears to be unnecessary as the questionable replies appear to no longer exist which is kind of telling in and of itself. Good day to all." You got people who did not see eye-to-eye with you on an issue that we have only one side of the story on... I certainly did not understand what your message meant... "questionable replies appear to no longer exist..." But then you become condescending and dismissive with "...which is kind of telling in and of itself. Good day to all." That is wh

This person yelled at most of the Pack Leaders for what all perceived as unprovoked. It's feeling like there is a negative bias coming from most of you, this was a good thing. This person was asked to step down because they treated every one like crap, was verbally abusive. Also, this person refused to submit applications for all leaders who disagreed with them. One applicant, in disagreement asked about whether we could have a campfire (allowed), calmly & politely said that he thought that we should have one because of where our Scouts were in training & experience. His application ne

The Scoutmaster jokes were part of my youth experience, as well. As Scouts in the 1990s, we were hyper aware of youth protection pitfalls and took much of the organization's guidance seriously ... and, of course, mocked some of it since we were adolescents.

Apparently y'all have been too hasty in your criticism of my concerns. The unnamed person has been removed by Council from his role based on his continued abusive behavior as a leader. He is banned from leadership in Boy Scouts. BTW, it did not involve YPT or Safety violations just leadership communications abuse. @5thGenTexan @Navybone@HashTagScouts @Armymutt@InquisitiveScouter He, who will remain forever unnamed on here, was, simply put, a very bad leader. He was in battle with almost every other leader. My sons will not suffer his "leadership" when moving to Boy Scouts, his replacement is c

Perhaps I have given too few details because your response is missing the target.

We don't have all of the information, but your email comes across as abusive and unprofessional too. It doesn't say "Look at this cool feature I found to help make our lives easier." It says "Hey dummy, why haven't you looked at Scoutbook?" My wife and I have different levels of commitment to Scouting, and different levels of time we are able/capable of spending. If I find a cool SB feature or some other Scouting related reference, I tell her what it is, how we can use it, and how to access it. I've even made a PowerPoint with screen shots and instructions. My advice is to first look at

Now that this (permanently) unnamed individual is permanently removed from Scout leadership roles for life, do you still feel the same way? Is it not obvious that he, not I, was at fault?