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  1. Regarding BSA’s track record of surveys with forgone conclusions, a recent conversation with a pro who is active in O/A leads me to believe that we may add this questionnaire to that list.
    4 points
  2. With all do respect, this is an over generalization. More importantly, it reverses the causality. With few exceptions, everyone wants to have fun, but — even with the offering of an insanely fun troop — not everyone wants to be a scout.
    3 points
  3. Who’s wearing the patch, who’s working on their advancement, and who’s applying for the award? It’s time to educate them about this possible leeway in their program. Seriously, this is not an adult’s problem. We need to spend a lot of time arranging safe travels, training for all manner of hazards, and putting coffee on in a timely fashion. These little quirks that arise because the advancement method has become verbose and complicated … they won’t bother us one way or the other. It’s the youth who know what each of them as done who will feel the emotional damage if they think either a) o
    2 points
  4. Ask the youth in question if they think they should be able to double dip in this way and to justify it. The right answer being whatever they decide for themselves.
    2 points
  5. What do I know? The only thing I’d worry about her might be that her parent gets advice from strangers on the internet. A troop with 3-going-on-4 years of experience and 3 ILST trained … they are ready for this. It’s an advancement grey area, and the more this thread sits out there, the more we’ll find scouters who would treat this differently. It’s a big country. So, what really matters is how other scouts who she knows would like to be treated. Let her and her other trained youth leaders decide how they would like adults to handle service-hour tallies in honest-to-goodness grey
    1 point
  6. If a kid is there just ONLY to have fun, why bother with the Scout part at all? Sounds like just meeting up to play to me. Certainly a lot cheaper to just play.
    1 point
  7. This topic is covered in GTA Section 4.2.3.6 I like what it says about service hours and service projects. By the book, anything done toward a requirement may also be used toward another requirement, as long as the requirements for one of them do not expressly forbid it, and all requirements are met as written.
    1 point
  8. The “conservation project” for Camping 9c is implicitly done while camping and has no minimum time requirement. The requirement for life has three hour minimum but no context, and may be performed in non-consecutive intervals. I can’t imagine a Star scout so tightly managed that he/she would have to double dip, but I would be fine with it.
    1 point
  9. Or knots, or certificates, or the Troop paying for their Scouting classes or outings!!!
    1 point
  10. I’ve learned that every set of adults is different. When you have a contentious or unmotivated lot, it can be a hard slog. When everyone leans in a little, great things can happen … especially when the scouts start imitating those adults! I’m not beneath bribing adults who might lean in with chocolates or flowers. They are so precious.
    1 point
  11. I recently dug round the WOSM pages for MoP, and even looking for some of these other programs there I end up at Scouts for SDGs over and over because so many of the links go there. That may explain some of the lack of awareness. It never occurred to me to ask if it's ok for BSA members to execute WOSM programming, I just did it. I took their SDG training, selected from their suggested exercises, used their materials - but with modifications. Why I modified might be another reason why some of the WOSM programs aren't popular here. Several of the SDGs veer into politics in the US by t
    1 point
  12. Funny that this thread starts on 21 Feb 2023, and the definitions on line were changed after 23 Feb. WE ARE HAVING AN EFFECT!!!
    1 point
  13. Forestalling death.
    1 point
  14. As someone involved in Scouting since before Cub Scout packs could conduct overnight camping trips, and as someone who taught BALOO, this "Single Overnight Experience Policy" is indeed new. I have never seen it written in any BSA literature I have or used to teach BALOO that limited Cub Scout packs to 1 night. This is going to hurt many packs now, and in the future, especially when all the camp closures come about due to the bankruptcy. On a different note, what happens in those councils that do not have a list of approved campsites? And when asked about the approval process are told "
    1 point
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