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  1. Those of us in GenX often refer to the boomers as having ignored us, or as latch-key kids needing to raise ourselves. We learned quickly to be independent, and to do things for ourselves. Sadly our generation swung the pendulum too far. Not wanting to have the Milennials and Z to "suffer our fate", we overscheduled, hyper-supervised, and bubble-wrapped them. The lack of youth initiative, letting adults plan/control, etc.. Scouts is a reflection of the greater society. We did it to ourselves.
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  2. Oh, god. Non-uniform wear means not to be worn on the uniform.
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  3. Interesting thoughts. Our unit would be considered an "old school" traditional unit. Camping, hiking, Scouts playing games in the woods, youth led, etc. etc. Many families are opting for the units that are perhaps more new wave. What Scout units are becoming is reflective of what the families EXPECT a Scout unit to be now. That would be a unit that has evolved into Cub Scouts next level. Dare I say AOL III. Rather than adventures and challenges to overcome and the Scouts becoming more self assured, the expectations are that the unit will be more like a supervised classroom and leaders s
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  4. The scouts can hand out more than one. It's just a nice way to thank adults. I find the mentor pins more meaningful than the knots.
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  5. The use of Mentor Pins is a personal decision by the Eagle candidate. One pin is included in the presentation kit, for him/her to do what they want, so it needs to be a special and personal choice. Indeed, the entire ECOH ceremony is at the discretion of the Eagle and their family.
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  6. Enough. This was a discussion about recognizing adults.
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  7. Really, @mrjohns2???
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  8. It is titled the "Guide to Awards and Insignia" IMO, anything that is a "Guide" takes a far back seat to common sense and judgement... ("Guide" to Safe Scouting anyone??) Here're some other examples... 1. Velcro... I put velcro on my uniform to be able to change patches when desired (like the yearly JTE, or the temp patch on the pocket, or the leadership position patch, etc). But, if you are a uniform martinet the "Guide" says "No alteration of, or additions to, the official uniforms, as described in the official guidelines or the Rules and Regulations covering the weari
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  9. If you can provide a reference to BSA documentation supporting this definition, then I will gladly pass it on to the leaders in our unit. However, I will refrain from enforcing any such a rule as I believe that would go against the intent of the uniform. Per the insignia guide, the uniform is intended to be a medium to display "what each youth or adult member has accomplished with program opportunities...". I fully encourage scouts/leaders to wear a complete uniform, but I would much rather a scout/scouter wear a 90% correct unform than get hung up on such details and discourage them in the p
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  10. I highly endorse these: https://www.amazon.com/Butterfly-Backings-Keepers-Replacement-Uniform/dp/B07PGVCDVX/ref=asc_df_B07PGVCDVX?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80058245652837&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583657823895553&psc=1
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  11. Sadly, too true today, though we still have the units that do NOT fit that picture. But, too often, those units are dependent on too few adults that know how to sit in the background with occasional prods. And that is because they were not allowed to function in that manner. Add the modern issues with which we have now struggled for more than two decades, and it truly makes it harder. Yet, the program survives, and on occasion the public actually recognized it for its overall worth, rather than the image too often propagandized by the media and others. I recently have thought how fo
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  12. The best source for current knot line up is the Guide to Awards and Insignia page 64-66 in the 2022 Revision. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066/33066_Scouting_Honors_And_Special_Recognitions_WEB.pdf https://www.scouting.org/resources/insignia-guide/ To find the requirements for each knot, start on the official BSA Awards Central page, and look up by name... https://www.scouting.org/awards/awards-central/ I recommend you only use "official" BSA requirements sources (if you can find them). Requirements and criteria do sometimes change... As for the
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  13. The BSA's Youth Protection and Barriers to Abuse FAQs at https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/yp-faqs/ were updated in February 2023, clarifying some of the discussion that has been posted on this thread regarding overnight outings at the Scouts BSA level, in particular for units that might use Merit Badge Counselors as a required registered adult, and the 72-hour rule. As of September 2023, all adults on an overnight outing must be registered, replacing the previous 72-hour policy (note the effective date of September 2023 does not appear on the FAQs, but it is in Guide to Safe Scouti
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  14. Seems to me, the unit leader and the project beneficiary are the ones who get to make the call, as it's their signatures on the last page. Seems like the bsa standard is that if the project got done, then adequate planning was done. Screwing up planning is a good way to learn the importance of planning for this sort of thing.
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  15. Good for her. I don't think I'd worry so much about her GSUSA local council so much as the county health department. I know around here, they take a dim view of selling food stuff in even a "semi professional" manner. Church bake sale, not so much. Cake table auction, mmmmm okay. Publicity, garnering future delivery orders...
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  16. I think that is the right answer. We are all so personally invested in scouting that we forget we are only volunteers. If the situation sours, move on. We only get one life. Enjoy it.
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  17. Well, that may be how it should work, but I don't think that's how it does work. Food for thought: who would want to stay where they are not wanted; you can't really fire a volunteer; what harm can be done by frivolous complaints; whose version of the story do you believe and why; anyone can tell someone that can't play anymore, but by what authority; if the allegation is slanderous but false, whose responsible; how many times has a CC, SM, CM or District Committee member "fired" someone without proper authority? Unless it's a criminal offense I would tread very carefully. Personally,
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  18. I know an Eagle coach who's been at that role for nearly two decades. He has received numerous mentor pins over the years, but only wears a single one on his uniform. I wear my father's pin on my uniform, and I'd sooner quit than be told I have to take that off. At the end of the day, my feeling is if we're focusing on pins or knots on uniforms, then we must have absolutely nothing else wrong with our organization or units that could better use our attention.
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  19. You don’t plan on having them wear the eagle mentor pins on their uniforms, do you?
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  20. If you want to be ignorant, feel free to carry on as I can’t argue with chosen ignorance.
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  21. He is asking for you to educate him out of any potential ignorance... That is not "chosen ignorance"!! C'mon man!! A Scout is Kind!!
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  22. Non-uniform wear. Done. Period. A Scout is also obedient and trustworthy. Not following the uniform standards is neither.
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