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  1. Philmont and Summit are both experiencing staffing shortages and adult leaders are having to make up for it. I genuinely sympathize with them. It's a problem everywhere and I know it's got to be driving people who have to deal with it crazy. Our troop did merit badge camp at Summit last week. Summit had 50 people sign contracts to work and not show up. One of our adults had to teach Brownsea Island for the week. Two others had to run fishing. Here's my problem. They charged our adults over $400 each for the week. Summit expected to be paying staff to do jobs that our adults ended up
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  2. I have nothing to say that is worthy of much attention, other than I am SOOO VERY grateful for Eagle1993 and his excellent reverse engineering of this opinion, and other such. I, for one, am indebted to you. Well done, sir. Jolly good show. Jolly good, indeed. Seriously bro. I really mean it for realz. Hip, hip and pip pip. I shall return to vexing over the next round of dredging up the past to reiterate the dastardliness one more time. And the band played on...
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  3. I'm an old Marine and I say that I learned how to be comfortable outdoors in the Boy Scouts, not the Marines! Semper Fi!
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  4. First of all, let me say a sincere “thank you” for all the feedback. Often, I’ll spend 10-20 minutes composing a thoughtful response on other forums only to be met with silence. I want to let you know I really, really appreciate they time you spent replying to my questions. I totally agree about Scouts BSA being scout-led. If our patrol was functioning as you [collectively] described, with the SM advising the SPL, the SPL advising the PL, and the PL leading the meetings and coming up with agendas with the SPL, I’d be totally satisfied, and I’d keep quiet and watch. Unfortunately, tha
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  5. I also wonder if the BSA runs out of money before every issue is worked through. I have to believe that strong LC’s are making contingency plans to survive on their own or in some sort of confederation.
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  6. I think the time frame is longer than weeks. Months or longer due to all the parties that have to come to an agreement on different issues. Surely there will not be 100% agreement on any changes made. We have definite progress but I really begin to wonder if BSA will run out of money before this is complete.
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  7. Den leader for 5 years, now ASM. 2 kids in scouts, one still in cubs, the other crossed to Scouts BSA last March. I'm pretty passionate about BSA scouting. I was somewhat active on the official BSA forums before they were deleted. Reddit is a mess. So I'm looking for a new home to debate discuss today's hot topics. Hopefully I'm in the right place. Nice to meet you.
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  8. I'll attempt to explain my understanding of abuse claims going forward. This is for child sex abuse claims related to scouting that occurred prior to February 2020. This has nothing to do post Feb 2020 nor non abuse claims. I look at this under two umbrellas. One is liability and the other is insurance. The liability is the individual or organization that pays under tort. For example, for any case, there could be liability ranging from parent, perp, unit leaders, chartered org, local council and national BSA. Depending on a specific case, a jury could assign liability to any one of
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  9. It looks like the best approach is to fix the unapproved issues from the judge's ruling. The largest is working out the CJC/LDS issue.
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  10. There's a difference between Unit Adult Chaperones/Volunteers at Summer camp helping with food serving, helping clean the shower house or doing odd jobs for the Ranger, vs being enlisted to run a program area that would be covered by a paid staff member. Especially when the adults in question took off a week of work, AND got charged $400+ for the privilege to be unpaid volunteers doing a paid staff position. I used to volunteer regularly when I attended Scout camps with my unit, helping the Commissioners, or the Dining Staff or Shooting Sports staff. I even co taught First Aid Merit Badge
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  11. Indeed; and the LDS have ample resources to address this sort of thing. If they bail, does that have any ramifications for other CORs? My understanding was that early on, there was talk that the LDS offer was seen as a sort of benchmark that other CORs would be expected to meet (and kind of a high one, at that). Does their absence create a space for the other CORs to renegotiate their own liability?
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  12. I remember when you could be told to leave the Ordeal if you were not following directions. Now it is considered "hazing" if you tell them to leave. That blew my mind when I first was told this. Sadly I have seen folks talking the entire time, and when asked if they think they deserve to be members, said yes. I have seen an adult be placed in a work party of one, because he was extremely negative, would not stop talking or complaining, and it was affecting the rest of the work party. He got in. Worse was I saw an entire work part stop and refuse to do another thing. Again when I asked why
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  13. It is funny that you used the expression "red herring" in a post that completely distracts from the topic of unit non-participation in OA to an unrelated topic of CO approval of unit leaders.
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