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  1. You think making fun of beer brands means I condone using alcohol to molest scouts? That's quite a leap. I really didn't think it was necessary for me to criticize something so obviously horrible. On another forum I strongly criticized scouters who said they would get a beer when coming off trail at Philmont. You're on duty 24/7 until the last scout is picked up at any scouting event.
    3 points
  2. Well, to sum up my views on this, 18-21 year olds should not have the YPT restriction outside of scouting. I might make that for friends within 2 years of age of the now adult scout. This is similar to the relatively new tenting age restriction. It would be great to have more women involved. That is separate from the sexist YPT restriction that is different for female and male adult leaders. Having more restrictive rules for men than you have for women is sexist. I also find it insulting. And I do think those who make these rules don't consider that they are imposing them on voluntee
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  3. There's a difference between what is and what it was supposed to be. The 1992 OA Handbook does not identify this among the purposes of the Order. Three out of the four focus on camping. The fourth focuses on leadership in cheerful service. Somewhere along the way, the purpose got muddled and then diluted. Probably why our attendance is so low and our officers are in their position because they were the only ones who happened to show up that night. To bring this back around to the topic, the OA is an example of an option for youth that started locally and grew nationally. The p
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  4. I feel obliged to point out that mathematically if you cut a corner off a totin chip card, which is a rectangle, the resulting irregular pentagon now has five corners. As you keep cutting off corner after corner you eventually arrive at a circle which has either no corners or infinite corners.
    2 points
  5. One must take the stand where the responsibility sits. Many moon ago, I organized and led canoe trips for American Youth Hostels. Our local club would put an ad in the local outdoorsy publication and young adults would come, pay the rental fee, get some instruction, and happily paddle down a stretch of the Monacacy (also known as the Monotony) river. The requirements were prominently displayed in the ad ::: Swimming ability, no alcohol, expectation of getting wet, etc. Once, a pair of young males arrived with a large cooler. When I asked to see the contents, they smilingly opened it to
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  6. I think at least part of the issue is the general difference between Cubs and Scouts and finding women who can leave "mom" at home. My experience has been that moms have a significantly harder time dealing with the chaos of "scout-led" without wanting to step in to help/comfort/fix whatever problems come up. At least, that's what a number of the moms in my troop have said about themselves. Of course, in my old Cub pack, we didn't have many moms going on camp-outs either. Even when moms were the ones helping at den meetings and doing most of the Cub activities, it was almost always the dads
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  7. @SR70 on behalf of all the non-moderators, welcome to the forum. There’s no such thing as a busy parent. There are parents with priorities other than scouting. Pot luck is a common tradition, but if your Pack has built up the funds, there’s no harm in doing it differently. There’s always a balance between games and songs and skits and guest speakers. Leave that choice between the Cubmaster and Assistants. Your role as CC is hard enough without getting bogged down in those weeds.
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  8. A recent National Chief came from my lodge. He wouldn't or more likely couldn't talk either. I've always wondered exactly what goes on at such high and exulted levels, guess I'll never know. Oh well, I'm much happier in the woods than in a boardroom
    1 point
  9. I think your Blue and Gold can be whatever you want. We used to do potluck for this and Red and White but it's true people seem much busier and less enthused about bringing a tray of ziti or whatever. We've done a catered meal and charged a per head cost. Easier, but it's more costly. The most current iteration is unit buys pizzas, people bring their own drinks and the potluck part is a dessert to share, which can be as simple as a package of cookies. Don't get hung up on the food is my advice. Whatever it is that gets you together, is good. Also with covid the less shared utensils, etc., the
    1 point
  10. Maybe not as "dirty" as some of the jobs, but I would like to see him do a show on the PWD car process https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2017/02/01/from-idaho-to-indiana-this-is-how-pinewood-derby-car-kits-get-made/
    1 point
  11. From my observations on the way the voting is a total screw up, the BSA choosing the coalition and their less than scrupulous methods of dealing with their clients and the good chance that BSA will not be able to get a confirmation in their favor I hope someone at BSA asks the question: Did all those millions of dollars we spent over the past couple of years just go up in smoke?
    1 point
  12. Lets stay on topic, Chapter 11 Voting and Confirmation. Thanks, RS
    1 point
  13. And who knows but this bankruptcy could just go "up in smoke".
    1 point
  14. We had more interest from women then men for our Philmont trip. We had 3 women go with two crews. We also have several women go to our summer camps. When I took over my pack, there were zero women adult leaders and only 24 scouts. I reached out to moms and built up a core of women leaders and our pack expanded greatly. I do agree in general men are more interested in camping; however, I have found plenty of women are as well. You have to find them, talk with them directly and make an environment where they feel welcome and then more and more will join and help. It
    1 point
  15. Bud, Miller, Coors or any mass produced, low taste beer is better than Iron City. IC Light is drinkable. And IPAs are garbage. I'm starting to think I took us off topic, but no regrets. I think I have some Mad Elf left...
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  16. The biggest challenges IMHO are the promises national and local councils made to CO, and National made to local councils: that they would be protected. The next biggest is BSA's model: the charter. BSA made promises to both local councils and COs to protect them. That was one of the pitches to prospective COs for starting new units back in the day. COs felt they were protected from such lawsuits because they were told they would be, and now they are finding out otherwise. Ditto for the councils. As for the charter concept, while while it has been likened to franchisee agreements, do
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  17. Another skit that has fallen to the arrows of misdirected offence.
    1 point
  18. I agree. I do not believe national will listen based upon their history of ignoring volunteers. Anyone remember the 2015 Eagle Palm Survey they sent out? 18% were Against and 76% Strongly Against "Instapalms," yet they did it anyway. And there are other polls, where the results were never posted. Considering the National OA Committee is majority adult, IMHO OA is not a youth run organization. I can't remember what the big controversy was a few years back as old age is getting to me. But I do remember the National OA committee had 60+ members on it ( I want to say 63, but it may have b
    1 point
  19. Trying to be hopeful, but note link "The Youth Council will be staffed by two volunteers who serve on the National Scouts BSA Committee: Dwayne Fontenette, Jr. and Winnie Lee." My understanding, their focus at National appears to be membership and diversity. IMHO, I would rather have interim? Chief Scout @InquisitiveScouter as an advisor and a focus on program. Build the program and they will come. Another $0.02,
    1 point
  20. Obviously, you did read exactly what I wrote. Instead of a condemnation of an ASM who brought alcohol I read light banter about the brand and the ASM needed a better mentor to choose a better brand. You chose to make the leap. There is a poster on these forums who is a survivor (not myself but I am, and alcohol was used in my abuse) who read the original post and the subsequent posts. As a result of reading them he has suffered mental anguish because it relived his memory and caused him concern that the same situations may be occurring.
    0 points
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