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  1. Yep. Even when the logging companies only take 1 tree out of 4, (which is generally a low percentage) they never mention the collateral damage that the remaining woodlands will take from the machinery they are going to bring in. I mean, some timbering can be helpful for the forest, but if they really wanted to be "conservation minded" they'd contract with the low impact loggers like the Amish/Mennonites or require logs to be skidded out in singletons with a log arch rather than allowing them to bulldoze roads to get the massive skidsteers and log trucks back in.
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  2. Regarding the multi units from CO rule, that has been around since at least 2002, but it was in the NCS literature, not G2SS. Ditto the Cub Family Camping rules, although some councils never really did much to promote Cub Camping. Heck I remember one Camping Committee member back in the day saying Cubs don't need to camp. As for Councils not providing stuff, the #1 used camp over the past 20 years do not have showers, which was a requirement until recently, nor enough bathrooms. And my council never had a list of approved Cub campgrounds. So several packs used the OA's Where to Go Camping
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  3. That is what the charter agreement says. Look at it from their perspective, if your troop makes a mistake the church is legally liable to clean it up. I understand that you're frustrated with the changes and all. But I've seen this happen before. Another aspect of the charter relationship is, well, keeping that relationship healthy. It's working with the head of the church so you have someone on the inside defending the troop. Its doing service projects so members of the church know who you are, appreciate what you do and see that it complements the church. Every non-profit I've ever work
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  4. No, the #1 used camp is the old summer camp that has turned "rustic" with cap improvements being done by the OA and individual units. Until 2019 that camp actually subsidized the main camp via the usage and logging. In 2019, it was closed for 9 months while they repaired a road. Council tried to say that camp cost nearly $70/camper to maintain, but used the 2019 camping numbers, which only had 3 months of camping due to the road, as well as the capital expense of the road included in figuring out the $70/ Camper. In fact another council camp was only used once during 2019, and that was becaus
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  5. Sounds about right. Read the app to see who should sign it? The important part is you pick someone both the unit and CO likes that is a good communicator and understands both viewpoints of the relationship.
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  6. Our camps use the local ag school forestry dept to use the camps as a lab to teach students how to thin the forest. Granted, there's no walnut trees but for those trees they could still teach students and scouts how to properly take care of a forest. It's an opportunity.
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  7. I've read all the BSA rules I can find, backwards and forwards, I'm pretty sure I've never seen this one before Covid. Interestingly, it has nothing to do with CO rules or CO approval of leaders, because it's up to council to approve, so there's no formal approval needed fro the CO.
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  8. https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss03/ My impression is that language has been there for a while, but I might be mistaken. Also that is specific to camping, but I again am pretty sure I've seen similar language elsewhere for other events. And its worth pointing out that this language technically makes most webelos visits to troop campouts problematic.
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  9. I'm not an attorney. But I have been informed that the SOL can be tolled based on several potential grounds. With that in mind, a lawsuit may still be allowed to proceed in a SOL state. Therefore, releases in bankruptcy are necessary. And while the compensation is much lower in a grey or closed state, the potential for a valid claim remains and has to be settled. Personally, I'm disgusted by the inequity that allows a minimal assault in an open state to be more highly compensated than a victim of repeated severe assault in a closed state. It doesn't surprise me in this country, and this
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  10. Don't think you will find one. Totally agree with anyone who sees vaguely written policies as a problem. And yes, G2SS and other policies are vague in many areas. You all realize the G2SS and many other BSA policies are written vaguely intentionally, right? It gives the BSA more legal wiggle room if things go wonky, or so I'm told by my lawyer friends. I pointed out many of these discrepancies to council and national reps, and this messenger has been shot multiple times.
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  11. Perhaps too much redirection, but I could see a variant of the merit badge that allowed segments for various specialty areas.
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  12. I hear good and bad in your writing. "Grays" ... This whole BSA bankruptcy is because of grays that are now being exploited by a legal system because the words in the charter did not match what everyone expected ... not church leaders ... not scout leaders ... not BSA staff ... not parents. Further, the structure creates problems because of unit leaders seen effectively the same as church staff and BSA staff. ... The fact is words matter. If the charter says XXXX, that XXXX better be happening otherwise there is negligence and liability for damage. The CO is smart to not want to si
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