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  1. Shame on Dave. The unit should report to the CO at least yearly. For churches, Scout Sunday is ideal for that sort of thing. If you don't have a meaningful conversation with your COR and IH (institutional head) at least once a year, you are doing your troop a profound disservice. Now, it's time for Dave to start having meaningful conversations with the new COR ... that would be Bob. Bob's belligerent, we gather. But, is he wrong? Has he met these leaders whose applications he holds in his hand? Has he called their references? Is he representing the CO well? If Dave is concerned that
    2 points
  2. The only major hurdle stopping progress right now is Hartford, and the paths to clear that hurdle are limited. There were rumors of a new settlement with Hartford but so far, nothing concrete. Once the Hartford deal is cleared, I don't see the BSA or TCC/Coalition delaying the closure of bankruptcy on CO negotiations. At that point, each CO will either be on this train or at the station. I expect that many COs see the writing on the wall that they are being left behind. BSA will need a plan to efficiently charter units without COs as we enter in rechartering in the next month.
    2 points
  3. Situation is common. Grudge being pursued by getting "perceived" power and causing issues. Power grabs using the COR role is fairly common. Another is CC or a district role such as unit commissioner, etc. "Perceived" as others need to give them power. Others should push back when someone misbehaves / behaves as a bully. Try friendly conversation. Offer friendship. Offer honest open conversation. For this situation. COR sitting in a committee meeting is just a committee member. They don't get to usurp conversation or CC authority. COR s
    2 points
  4. There's two aspects here Refusal to a sign off on adult leader applications...why? If he has reason to believe the adults are not OK, that's one thing. If it is simply to cut Dave off at the knees, it is hurting Bob maybe, but scouts are the collateral damage. Bob is within his rights as COR to make himself a committee member and even a committee chair. The COR is the exception to the no-two-positions-in-same-unit rule. As others said: a unit or district commissioner (volunteer) or district executive (paid professional) can come in and try to talk to all parties and "mediate" (
    2 points
  5. Contact your District Commissioner. He/she can advise . "All Scouting is Local" . First be aware that Council and District will not get officially involved unless there are YP or other criminalities involved. That said.... Time for the CCH to make contact (long overdue?) with the CO. The DCommish may help here. The COR represents the Unit to the BSA. The Institution Head (somebody signed the charter agreement) must be involved here, and the CCH must make her/him aware of the CO's responsibility and the COR's problems. My understanding (check with the DCommish) the CO agreement requi
    2 points
  6. I think the logistics of that make it pretty much impossible at this point. If the COs were nationwide or even councilwide organizations it might be different, but you are talking about thousands (tens of thousands?) of COs. I can't fathom how you could organize the lot of them into some kind of a coherent coalition in less than another 12 months. As I've said before, there isn't any functional mechanism for the BSA to simply seize council assets. Even for those councils that wrote the "everything goes to BSA upon shut-down" into the bylaws, the answer is a simple vote to change byl
    2 points
  7. My understanding from folks in the know at the BSA, the BSA must be able to submit a viable 5 year business plan to emerge from Chapter 11. So if the LCs are not part of the settlement and will face lawsuits and be quickly forced into Chapter 11 or 7, will that not negatively affect the BSA business plan? If major COs totally drop Scouting, units could have difficulties finding meeting places causing many to fold. That would adversely affect the BSA emerging from Chapter 11. Seems to me that the BSA needs to thread the needle and satisfy the claimants representatives, LCs, and COs. No
    2 points
  8. Here's the cake version for those lacking time to read Troop 709's story... Peter, who came from the farthest away (Charlotte, N.C.) cut the cake at perfect time… 7:09 p.m.
    1 point
  9. Not all council agreements have the exact same wording. Some wanted that phrase removed. Agreement wording has changed over time. Was that wording always in it? Absolutely not for any/no reason. The version I read says "The Boy Scouts of America may revoke or decline to renew council charters for failure to comply with the Bylaws, Rules and Regulations, or policies of the Boy Scouts of America, or in any instance where it deems such action advisable in the interests of Scouting." BSA's failure is not a failure by the local council. Past YP fail
    1 point
  10. There is a lot about this story that I find very difficult to believe. This one leads the list. The COR's name and signature are on a lot of unit documents. It's on the roster. It is inconceivable to me that a scoutmaster doesn't know the COR's name.
    1 point
  11. I look at it as providence. I was an ASM while I was the CM, so I gained the experience to know what the Webelos needed for a FUN program. While we couldn't find another Webelos leader, three volunteered to assist. And, the other parents were great. So, I did the planning and let the parents lead the activities. I think we did it right because one scout who went to a different troop told me at his Eagle ceremony that his Webelos experience was the most fun he had in scouts. Barry
    1 point
  12. I like the idea, and believe you should scope the idea first by defining the problem. What, exactly, is the problem you are trying to solve? And then explore the question as to whether Scouting is a solution to that problem. The way to have phrased your OP, it seems like you are putting the cart before the horse. That is, you have a solution (Scouting) that is looking for a problem (some sort of public health issue that can be addressed by a youth program, and the crafting of a policy to implement your personally desired solution.)
    1 point
  13. IMHO ... Webelos den leader is the absolute best role in cub scouts. CM is fun. CC is interesting. BUT, Webelos den leader gets to take these cubs (and usually their dads) to special events, camping, visiting troops, etc. ... Absolutely the best role in cubs. ... IMHO, hardly a give up CM. More like run from CM to WDL. ... AND, WDL weirdly feels like less work than many of the other roles. I'm not sure why, but it was.
    1 point
  14. Well....the issue there is that many attorneys who deal with mass torts have retainer agreements that specify they will represent clients ONLY in the federal bankruptcy court, and not in State court (where it costs money to file a case). The TCC has been begging claimants to ask their attorneys if cases have been filed in State court since that number in NY for example is far lower than the number of BSA claims. So, if an injunction goes away in a State that was open but now the window has closed there will be victims calling attorneys and being told "Sorry, our agreement said FEDERAL court
    1 point
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