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I am so sorry to those survivors whom, through this entire process, are continually being triggered, re-traumatized etc... as reports, information etc... are reported. Stay safe and strong! You WILL get through this.

We don’t know the specifics of this case. Perhaps they did discuss this with the claimant. I absolutely agree law enforcement should communicate with victims and involve them in the process. I hope they would include experts in sex abuse victims to handle the discussions appropriately. However, I believe that they need to act on this information. Who knows how many kids are currently being abused by some of these men. I am incredibly thankful that some men reported the abuse. I hope they were treated kindly during the process.

All states have mandatory reporting that may have a time period (some number of years after the incident occurred). The BSA and local councils (LC) expected, based on historical reporting, 8,000 to 12,000. More than about 25,000 was not felt to be a likely result. Obviously, the number of claims filed far exceeded those expectations. So i those claims included new reports of child sexual abuse in the LCs. Those new ones had to be reported by law if in the reporting period. People have accused the BSA of not reporting incidents that could be child sexual abuse. We all would expect

I started my involvement with BSA back in the late 60s with Troop 134 in Charlotte, NC. The troop fell apart, I found the "fumes" and went my way, but later my dad (our Asst Scoutmaster) told me the real reason the troop failed- adults not committed to the future of the kids. So as my sons became old enough to get into Scouting, I got involved right with them with Troop 415 Old Hickory Council in NC. They made Eagle, one with palms. Of their friends in the troop, all of them made Eagle. Each of those young men has had amazing lives as adults in their career fields. The reason, we had a cadre o

(raising hand from the back of the room) So, my brain feels like teflon when it comes to some of this... What is supposed to be disclosed at the upcoming disclosure hearing and why is it such a Big Deal? I have no background in law or financial stuff (like bankruptcy) or insurance. I'm trying to follow what is going on, but I get so confused.

Ok. Obviously not done for the night. Don’t disagree and hopefully you didn’t think I was saying otherwise. I’m trying to point out the very hybrid, unique situation this is. We’re not talking about a direct allegation to a “reporter” or observed suspicious behavior. These are, most likely, detailed retellings of a man’s abuse for the specific purpose of receiving compensation, with some expectation of great discretion, confidentiality (admittedly qualified) and the promise of notice pre-disclosure. The difference couldn’t be too much greater.

@Dave951 great posts. These members may also find them interesting. @Armymutt @walk in the woods@Eagle94-A1 @JoeBob @ShootingSports @InquisitiveScouter

That's absolutely the LDS' view. https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/82a47dab-b75d-43b7-ae01-00b6dc8a17b0_3263.pdf and they want to fight about it. So we are getting into what BSA "intended" for the COs. And this gets into BSA's loose language over the years. Again, the entire CO system is a house of cards. CORs not really paying attention/checked out. COs that barely knew they had a unit. No one paying attention. And now it is coming back to haunt.

Here's a couple pix from the range- The day starts with a safety brief and a quick history lesson Then on to the fun part Best shot of the summer at Camp Raven Knob that year, an 11yo daughter of a Scoutmaster Evenings that first year were an open shoot at the main range back in the camp. Lots of ammo expended, much fun was had by the Scouts.

My teacher retirement plan.

That's a shame. If you have a lawyer, did he/she spell this out? I'm always wondering how in-depth some attorneys discussed the process versus churning POCs.

Sometimes the needs of the community outweigh the needs of the individual. I think mandatory reporting is a prime example of this. The community needs mandatory reporting, even if the victim and/or the victim's family objects.

I ‘like’ that you spoke my mind, but I dislike that it is the experience occurring. that being said, all wounds being splayed open, broken identity being run through again, I would welcome this in my case (with proper notice) on more than one occasion, due to the multiple investigations into the man that molested me, I would hope this time I wouldn’t be told to go home and just forget about it. who trained these people? thanks again for coming from the deep of your gut. It is helpful.

Last note for the night, I think. What is difficult for non-victims to viscerally and deeply understand is this. Finding out about even the prospect of our Proof of Claim being used by others, without any due notice, is a massive trigger. When I read the article, it lit a short fuse. That fuse led to the implosion that occurs when I am confronted, yet again, with the falling, falling, falling into panic and despair that besets me when control is taken from me without my permission. Out of control of my body, my already fragile identity, my information and my fate. Everyone feels insecure when

Yes. Ok. I see it and I now recall. It’s at the very end of an 8-line paragraph, comprising the totality of “PART I: Confidentiality.” Since I previously reported all this crap to law enforcement in 2003 and BSA in 2008, it wasn’t an issue for me. HOWEVER, we were told there would be due Notice of Designation of Additional Permitted Parties in the event any other previously unnamed party requested and was being granted access to our Proofs of Claim. If they’re forwarding to law enforcement, that should trigger the notice requirement. I know, I know. They are using an exception for expedie