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Definitely get some time in at a natural waterfront. Go over Safe Swim defense and Safety Afloat. The more your scouts prepare, the more they’ll enjoy.

Swim test is the usual, but a tad shorter at the environmental center. The biggest issue some scouts have is swimming in a natural body of water vs. at a pool. At Sea Base, you're swimming near docks in ocean water. Take a hammock and a tarp. That's what I did. It was really hot and while you can take the fly off of the tents, you can have storms every night. A hammock means you have better airflow and you don't have to tent with another person. That's a big reason why I took a tent to Northern Tier and Sea Base. I hate tenting with someone else. It's very hard to sleep. Sea Base act

All good information from others in this post. One "conditioning" item that I would recommend is that you have to get in and out of the war canoes very often. Having all the scouts and especially adults being able to get themselves into the canoe on their own without needing someone to help pull them in is really helpful. Picture three 120 pound scouts trying to pull their 250 pound scoutmaster out of the water over the gunwale into the canoe... A good way to practice would be to find a swimming pool where there is about a 2 foot distance between the pool water level and the deck.

Anker now up. In short, his belief is this. Despite the FCR/TCC/Coalition saying that they will never, ever accept the Hartford deal that's fine, because then we go to the toggle plan, ONLY the BSA is released, the the victims/claimants will have to go into state courts. "We are willing to go back to the torts system." Valid vs. invalid claims. Hartford is basically saying, and the judge asked if this was their "leverage", that the victims will be handed a choice: Take $3500 now or Spend the next several years in state court lawsuits and that the insurance companies

Started at a little after 10:00. The parties had agreed on what to admit as evidence from depositions over the weekend, so Mosby and Ownsby will not be testifying. Recess at about 10:30 until 12:00, when oral argument will resume.

I assume you've read this thread I wrote?

I don't know what to make of that comment by Mosby. There is no rational, reasonable explanation for that. He has a human resources background and was involved in several corporate restructurings. That's why he was put in that position. Such agreements would have been his bread and butter. Covid is yet another reason why he should have known about them because BSA's position during Covid has been to follow the direction of local health authorities and your CO. I'm not a fan of his. I think he was a poor choice but then again perhaps there wasn't anyone else willing to take that on.

@ThenNow He was hired around December of 2019 and the NEB was well down the path to filing Chapter 11 that Mosby did in February 2020 at the direction or assent (I do not wish to use the wrong word around all the legal types here). He knew largely what Chapter 11 would entail but COVID was a nasty surprise to him as well as all of us. He has been dealing with really severe problems since then. Do not dispute your assertion but understand why he has not.

I think the US Trustee will concur with this. I believe the US Trustee has a hard time believing you can insulate COs, LCs and pull in their insurance companies into the National BSA bankruptcy ... as they are non debtors. Also, US Trustee objected to the Coalition payments.

Yes, the "Limo" as a 15 passenger van. If I recall they charged $75 per person total for both ways. Of course that was a number of years ago, so I'm sure the price has gone up. Dale

I've never done a high adventure trip with scouts although we've had crews in our units go to both Phimont and Sea Base. You can never go wrong by being over prepared. Everyone might be fine in normal conditions over years of doing these trips. However, you never know when you might be faced with unexpected weather or some other unusual condition. It's a good instinct to get your scouts out swimming in open water conditions. We recently concluded the Olympics. Many successful athletes did their best to simulate Tokyo's extreme weather conditions while still at home. Do what you can.

That was the first thread I found about Sea Base, so thank you very much for that one, I did find another Sea Base thread several pages down. Good point on having a van for hurricane evacuation. I was wondering how that contingency was covered in the event of a hurricane while out on the island. How much gear are we allowed to take out to the island?

So the swim test at Sea Base is the standard BSA swim test? jump in the pool and do the 4 laps and float for a minute? Someone mentioned that the paddle to Big Munson was no joke, so no preparation is needed other than everyone needs to paddle? How long does this paddle take to cover the 6 miles to the island? I'm looking at the chart and I'm trying to figure out how we get from Brinton to Munson or someone from sea base takes care of the navigation and we follow a boat out there?

Limo services are nice shuttle busses. Sometimes econoliners with four rows of seats. Other times, similar to airport car rental shuttles. Never the traditional stretch cadilac. BUT ... it would be fun to show up in a stretch cadilac.

Welcome to scouter.com @Bear456 I have not been to SeaBase but I will send up a flare to more informed members who I can recall. An incomplete list of informed members no doubt. @Jameson76 @fred8033@qwazse @mashmaster @69RoadRunner

Our PLC planned at least 2 hours of free time each afternoon on weekend campouts. I once got a call from a new SM with no youth experience ask me how to keep the scouts busy on campouts, He had run out of advancement activities and needed ideas. My first advice was two hours of free time. His reaction was that it was two hours where the scouts would get themselves in trouble and immediately discounted the suggestion. Adult leaders without a youth scouting experience are 3 years behind adults with a youth scouting experience. Even then, they need to see patrol method in action during those

I spent last week at Sea Base doing the outisland excursion. This is a week long trip and 5 of those days are on Munson Island (30 miles from Key West). Here are my notes and observations in case someone is looking for more info. - Be prepared they will test you on swimming ability - They didnt seem to be concerned with BMI based on some of the rather large men that were on the island. - The war canoe holds 9 people with the mate riding on the back of the canoe steering. - The canoe paddle is 6 miles and is much easier with 16 year olds vs 13year olds. It tooks us about 2 h

I was pondering this over my first cuppa at 3:26AM. I'm thinking of making a board game based not so loosely on our Animal House Circus. (More on that later.) Here's what I was tinkin. When the lawyers of child sexual abuse victim claimants in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy have lawyers, and groups of those lawyers have groups of lawyers, and when lawyers who were in groups with other lawyers sharing a lawyer find it necessary to fire that lawyer and hire other lawyers, something is wrong. Desperately, desperately wrong.