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THIS is why hate having advancement as the focus of the program instead of FUN AND ADVENTURE!. And after my two older sons' experiences with First Year camper programs, I will not force a Scout to do it. Oldest was helping Scouts in his "patrol" out at FYC. Camp middle son went to divided their program into a Tenderfoot & Second Class session and a First Class session. He and his buddies were bored with the First Class session, but the new guys from the other pack were overwhelmed. Summer Camp, as it is currently done, needs to be individualized to the wants and needs of the S

No. BSA requires that the crossover Cub Scouts (AoL is a RANK, Webelos is a DEN), now Scouts, BSA scouts, demonstrate all the elements. The first words of the Scout rank requirement are. That said, the key to the two-year Webelos program is that 80-90% of the program is repeated in the first three ranks of Scouts, BSA. Scout Rank = Scouting Adventure + Outdoor Adventurer (Outdoor Code) + Cyber Chip Tenderfoot Rank = Building a Better World + Outdoor Adventurer + Cast Iron Chef + Scouting Adventure + Scouting Adventure + Stronger, Faster, Higher + portions of Castaway An

Crossovers individually demonstrate their skills to the Troop Guide, Instructor, or Patrol Leader. AOL are treated with the same regard as other new scouts.

I am a Cub Scout leader holding many positions over the past few years. I am currently helping to get a brand new girl troop up and running. How are AOL crossovers handled? Scouting Adventure and Scout look to be the same requirements aside from the Scoutmasters conference. Generally.... do the new Scouts who earned AOL repeat and get the requirements for Scout signed off or just go straight to the Scoutmasters conference?

@5thGenTexan, are these girls starting a new troop, or crossing over into an existing troop of girls?

We are newly minted Arrowmen. A long, hard, hot day but we made it. Definitely a unique experience. Middle Tennessee Council. Wa-Hi-Nasa Lodge 111. Chickamauga Chapter.

You are right. I should have said "governance structure" including and especially the composition of the National Board. Of course, it is perhaps a testament to how little the regional/area/territory system matters that in the midst of the bankruptcy the lawyers decided to let that move ahead. If it had any actual relevance to how BSA operates, it too would have been postponed until post-bankruptcy.

Ours do a separate sign off for the requirements, but the AOLs who have bridged can do that quickly. Doing that gets them familiar with the process of getting things signed off (and their being the ones driving that process) but since they already know pretty much all of it it’s a “quick win.” Then the SM conference can happen and talking about that process is part of talking to them about how Scouts is different than Cubs.

This just reminds me of the org charts I used to see when nobody really had any good ideas - just shuffle and hope. It's sort of vision lite: we kinda know what the problems are but we really have no ideas on how to solve them. If national really had ideas then wouldn't this be reflected in the organization? Not only that but this reeks of matrix management. Since our council's membership has been dropping will our council membership lead be replaced? If, more likely, all the council memberships have been dropping is it time to admit the territory membership lead hasn't a clue? This remi