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OA weekends - yes. This includes LLD. Conclave? I just read through the standards. National Training weekends, yes. Council sponsored activities, including the National Council? Yes. I think the Conclave's host council/lodge would be the ones to head this up. It is a council event that invites other lodges/councils.

We were told about 15 or 16 months ago that the fees would increase 3 years in a row. Since last year's increase came after we set council fees for 2021, our council chose to eat that $6 increase rather than pass it on to the families. My hope is that cooler heads will prevail, and there will be no national increase for quite some time.

Not kidding. Back when we could actually do school talks and other in person recruiting. The "ooohhhs" and "aaahhhhs" came from talk about archery, BBs, fishing, camping. The outdoor stuff sells Cub Scouts. A yoyo thing might be something to consider if its raining and can't do anything outside, but aside from that its useless.

Some councils are being somewhat upfront with information concerning the costs associated with the lawsuits but most are not. Very interested to see what the TCC releases to LC this week concerning what assets they can keep/sell and how much they are expected to contribute to the settlement.

Here is a drawing done by Baden-Powell. https://images.app.goo.gl/zoAvvXgxQrwNTBJd6 Here's me (center) wearing it. I haven't earned all the proficiency badges yet. I'm part of a traditional scouting association for adult scouts, called Rovers. We can also wear this uniform with pants or a kilt. It's interesting to note that the Webelos shoulder knot originates from the Rover Knight shoulder knot, with the colors of the 3 sections (yellow for cubs, green for boy scouts, and red for Rovers). Sorry if this got a little off topic 😛

Splitting hairs ... but the CO owns the assets and has an obligation to use them for the purposes of scouting in their vicinity. That obligation trickles down to the unit committee. So, if the CO wanted the cash to guild their roof that would be a problem. This is not that. In this case, it’s fairly straightforward. The committee appointed by the CO — most likely formed from the parents staying in the pack — get to the say in how to use the $ in the pack treasury.

I wouldn't call the BSA uniform any creepier than a school uniform. I've worn the traditional Rover uniform with beret and shoulder boards, which is way more "military" looking, in public, and I've gotten nothing but curiosity and delight from people who see me in it. The uniform is meant to create identity and unity among scouts, and is meant to have a neat look to it like a school uniform. It's supposed to draw some attention and curiosity. I bet if more scouts wore their uniform outside of scout activities, we'd see more youth joining. The uniform is part of the appeal to youth.

I misunderstood the initial post to be about the fellowship. I'm not that familiar with OA, but the NCAP SA-001 will guide you for the standard that apply to most event. When I did the Short Term Camp Administrator training, there was specific mention that certain things like OA conclaves that involve more than one council will be different. Your OA weekend - Short Term Camp and the NCAP standards will apply. Troop Camp Out - not a council organized event, so refer back to the Guide to Safe Scouting. Patrol Event - that's a unit event, GTSS applies. The real fun comes in the adult

I think there has been enough hyperbole, sarcasm and thinly veiled personal attacks recently. Perhaps everyone who has posted in the last 24 hours should take the weekend off. Enjoy your family, go for a hike. Do something else besides post on this or related threads. Perhaps after the weekend folks could return to discuss ideas and not cast aspersions at each other. We can disagree without being disagreeable. I will be the first to take my own advice...

The statistics from Shakeshaft's paper included coaches who were major offenders. No level of child abuse is acceptable, but what is the standard that society is setting? It seems for the schools that it is 9.6% because there has not been a hue and cry since this was reported in 2004. No outcry, no congressional hearings, some lawsuits, little media attention. Wonder why? Once again, this is not an apology for the BSA but rather a question about the attention paid to the BSA when a worse as in higher incidence and far higher prevalence (from , https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pr

Perhaps, it is because here and other places volunteers complain bitterly about taking YPT that I believe should be done yearly. People here and elsewhere threaten to quit if youth protection gets more demanding. The organization is already weakened by membership losses. if those are the reasons, the BSA should follow your advice and let those people leave if they are not willing to get with the program and realize that there can be no program until we have all made Scouting as safe as possible. There is no excuse. We all must do the right thing to protect children.

CynicalScouter, Lawyers have the mistaken belief that they can be an expert in anything. They are experts in the law - not youth protection, science, medicine, mathematics, engineering, or any other field unless that have advanced training in it. Just as many of us are looking to attorneys and yourself to translate what is actually occurring. Not that we are not intelligent enough to understand but that it requires specialized training to be an expert. Even in the law, attorneys specialize. A divorce lawyer does not handle a criminal defense or a complicated bankruptcy such as we have

1. WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2. I am going to respond section by section to your OP. Several troops I have been in over the years have limited the involvement of TRAINED CUB SCOUT LEADERS until they they become TRAINED BOY SCOUT/SCOUTS BSA SCOUTERS (caps for emphasis). And the full training can take that long to complete and be fully absorbed. I can tell you that it is not to retain control, rather it is for the new adults to be understand and see the Scouts BSA program and how it truly works. If you look at my posts from about 2017 to 2018, you can read about what enthusiastic

When this topic re-opens I'd like to remind people to read for meaning and not simply react to word choices that might be unfortunate or even accidental. As an example (and not intended to criticize the author), there was a recent post where someone used the word "socialist" and there was an immediate hostile response. However careful reading of the tone and context of the post made it clear that the writer was referring to "sociologist" and was not in fact attempting to bring economic theories or communist threats into the conversation. Also, I'd like to reiterate that in addition to n