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@Cburkhardt, there is so much to unpack there. In general, you cast aspersions at nebulous targets. When you make a derogatory claim against an unidentified target, it comes across as disingenuous...crying "wolf" but not showing us where the wolf is. If you want to help your claims, please be more specific. You make a claim of conspiracy, "...some of these individuals are acting in concert with interests seeking to drive the BSA into liquidation." without identifying the conspirators (who are posting on this site) or their interests. It also seems that you genuinely believe th

Every scout has always had the option to earn Eagle in less than two years. I agree that it does not produce the best result. Scouting is a journey of experiences; not an award. .... I'd ask a question though. You do not encourage, fine. I fully agree. ... But do you discourage scouts earning in less than two years? I see far too many scouters actually trying to slow down scouts. I just don't think that's an example we should be setting. I pray that I've never "slowed down" a scout. I say that because of a memory when I was new parent in Boy Scouts. The troop had a scout that

The BSA is a nonprofit corporation that does Scouting in the USA. The BSA and GSUSA have the sole rights to using Scouts, Scouting, etc. when it applies to a program for youth and children. The BSA also owns such things as Eagle Scout and the other ranks, the Order of the Arrow, etc. So a new program would need to develop new ranks, awards etc. Not a huge problem but the good will and reputation of the US Scouting program would be lost. There are certainly outfitters for the outdoors though it can be difficult to find gear for Webelos through the first couple of years of Scouts B

Yes, but the question is how much? Do I see all four HA bases surviving? No. But how many get sold? 1? 2? 3? And the other big giant question for Councils is whether they will be forced to pay for claims in which they have no part and there is no look back window? That is what the insurance companies are arguing: why should someone with claims from say Iowa (where there is NO look back window on abuse claims) get a payout? They are arguing, in effect, this should be limited to those 7-12 states that have such lookback windows. To me that will be the time when the in-fighting com

IMHO this became a foregone conclusion back in June/July when the Court required that Councils provide asset lists and subsequently when both parties hired assessors. Add to that the filing extension date for victims. As I understand, after almost a year, the Court has not formally ruled whether local councils are legally separate business entities nor has it resolved key insurance company liability issues meanwhile validation of victim claims continues. Given the volume of legal work ahead, it would be helpful to our program and scouts if the Judge ruled, say on Feb 18, 2021, that our 20

This topic will be added a requirement for the DEI MB and rank.

Pretty good example. USOC is a regulatory and sanctioning body. If you want to get to the Olympics, you have to get there via USOC OR whatever successor organization shows up. USOC is recognized by IOC as the "National Olympic Committee" for the U.S. USOC is a "monopoly" on access to the Olympics. But that doesn't mean you can't go run around the block if USOC closes tomorrow. BSA is not a regulator. Internationally, the only thing it would/could stop is some competitor from claiming WOSM status (no one cares). Nationally, yes, it does have a congressionally-granted quasi-m

I used to be a Beaver. A good old Beaver too....

A parallel... The US Olympic Committee is a 501 C 3 facing consequences for it's role in cases of sexual abuse of gymnasts. If the USOC ceased to exist, sporting competitions and the Olympics would continue. Another group would fill the gap. the USOC is not sports, and sports is not the USOC. https://www.moran.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?id=4A4EB912-624B-4706-A6A1-64DC88E20C74 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:07BDl3Txjr0J:https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/olympic-organizations-face-multiple-investigations-by-justice-department-state-

Sorry @yknot, but I can't disagree more. The urge to get outside exists outside of 'Scouting'. The footprint size of a national organization is the only question at stake in this bankruptcy. The urge to get outside is actually increasing in the populace. I introduced 4 individuals to hunting this season. They approached me, I didn't have to recruit them. 3 of 4 killed bucks. March 20 is opening day of turkey season, and they're knocking on my door. High adventure? The Boundary Waters canoe area will still be there, with outfitters. The Appalachian Trail will still be there. W

Every time I suggest moving on and focusing on what we can do to save what we have I'm either ignored or advised that I can always start another group. Clearly the point of my comments have been misunderstood. I think that even if the BSA is completly destroyed no one will be able to stop the true spirit of Scouting. We may have to return to the days where a couple of dads or moms load up their cars or vans and go camp out or take a hike. It just depends on those Scouters who are willing to pick up whatever shreds are left, and just keep going. This whole pile of $#!+ doesn't matter one bi

Well, given events of late, it's not just the BSA's long-term future I am beginning to lose faith in...

Dear Moderators and Friends, Last year some of you may recall that I actively hosted three lengthy postings in advance of the bankruptcy filing. My purpose was to prepare the way for a great reorganization filing that I believed would result in a plan agreement and approval within six months or so after the filing date. The discussions were serious and hundreds participated. COVID destroyed that possibility, leading some claimants Attorneys to smell blood in the water. They have gone in for the kill and Scouting as we know it could end. Several commenters joined claimants attor