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  1. Why should anyone who was a youth in prior to 1989 (Say 1981-87) have any liability at all! Why punish them with liability?
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  2. . . . .or at least TRY to do . . .
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  3. As camp counselors have asked my scouts for a note from their SM confirming that the did x,y, or z prerequisite, I have developed the following template: To whom it my concern, —— is a scout. A scout is trustworthy. Therefore, you may take ——‘s retelling of exploits pertinent to requirements for the badge that you are counseling as fact. My signature is most assuredly superfluous. Sincerly, qwazse
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  4. Part of the problem is this: those people are not being sued. This is a suit against the corporate entity called Boy Scouts of America. If this was a lawsuit/bankruptcy against say XYZ Corp. that makes widgets, the people who lose out there are shareholders and other unsecured creditors. If the widgets were defective or harmed people, the worst case scenario is XYZ Corp goes bankrupt, the shareholders and unsecured creditors are up a creek without a paddle, and the secured and other creditors get to pick at the carcass. The CEO and other executives of XYZ corp would have no personal liabi
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  5. If true, and I think you may be right, then plaintiffs lawyers are back to plan #1: take 10 cents on the dollar today. I still believe in the end National limps away from this and is not liquidated but is simply a shadow of itself with minimal staffing and barely any real support. Everything shifts to the Councils which creates a whole other mess but that's another story.
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  6. Yes, if push comes to shove the judge can convert but not simply because the settlement is too low but because the payments aren't being made OR because the debtor is acting in bad faith OR in the "best interests of creditors and the estate." 11 U.S. Code § 1112. Conversion or dismissal EDIT: Additional reasons for (forced) conversion of a Chapter 11 to a Chapter 7. In re Costa Bonita Beach Resort, 513 B.R. 184, 200-01 (Bankr. D.P.R. 2014) (quoting Alan N. Resnick & Henry J. Sommer, 7 Collier on Bankruptcy ¶1112.04[7] (16th ed. 2011))
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  7. FYI; the National Sea Scout Commodore posted this today. Hello all - I wanted to give you an update on what I know about the Churchill proposal progress. I am told that the National Key 3 are preparing a statement that will list all of the Churchill proposals along with a description of the process going forward. That will be going out on Scouting Wire, and probably in Bryan on Scouting, so keep an eye there, but we'll post a link here as soon as we see it. That was supposed to have gone out earlier this week, but consensus is hard and is taking some time to get right. Hopefully we
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  8. We are in the midst of our own "self" summer camp right now. Running merit badge classes and typical summer camp foolishness. No shooting sports but many other things
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  9. And here comes the backpedaling. And a survey (in which they do not allow you to offer new ideas, just want you to approve theirs).
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  10. Which will mean whatever they want it to mean. It never made sense to have youth and adults overlap in the program as participants, but here we are, so now they need to create a reasonable transition period where current 18-20 year old who have been promised positions can fulfill those, while providing a worthwhile path for current youth to transition into meaningful adult roles. Becoming an ASM at 18 was one of the best decisions I've ever made. It helped me develop my own leadership skills and decision making more than my undergraduate degree. The transition was challenging, and there w
    1 point
  11. https://scoutingwire.org/understanding-the-churchill-plan-and-what-it-means-for-scouting/# July 17, 2020 In 2019, the National Executive Committee (NEC) of the BSA asked six teams of volunteers and professionals from the local, area, regional and national level – including current or recent youth members and subject-matter experts – to develop plans on how to optimize the BSA for success in key areas based on input provided by more than 1,100 local, area, region and national volunteers and professionals, including: Youth Safety: How do we keep young people safe? Program:
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  12. I happened to have a discussion in the backyard of the commodore the day after the leaked document went live. It is a real document but it is only accepted as received. That is where the confusion is I think. They had already started the formation of a couple of committees at the national level to discuss all the options. So this isn't a backpedal just a communications problem. He stated that someone at National really botched the communication. You are counting only the primary units for the scouts. There are more Sea Scouts than 2000, but it is the lowest number for sure. Sea Scout
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  13. My personal thoughts: National is short the funds to make down payments when they sign the various contracts, and their bankruptcy masters refused to allow them to draw on debt. I think Irving is hiding this reason from its customer base Covid is a concern. We are talking about a small city, and that city would lack the spacing even an ordinary apartment provides. You’d need 4x the tent age for staff alone. Finally, not every vendor has a cancellation clause, indeed some have forfeiture clauses.
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  14. The leaked document I found on reddit was shown to all BSA staff was released as a definitive document. Not a draft. Now with all the pushback, they are having to backpedal and get their story straight. This does not inspire confidence.
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  15. Someone made one mistake and it was pulled down. That doesn't sound like much of a trend to worry about. However, if they had, for example, lied 20000 times in 4 years, then you'd have something to talk about.
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  16. can someone explain to me how BSA would have lost $2.8m on WSJ? This isnt sarcasm, I'd really like someone more knowledgeable to theorize or speculate on this for me. We went for the day, it was nice. I didnt see anything I would call lavish. They already have the land and unpaid volunteers. Every attendee paid a lot to be there. Not enough attendance to meet estimated goals? Wasnt it bigger than previous WSJs? Anyone know of unplanned expenses BSA encountered such as security or something?
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  17. We had a small group of scouts attend Camp Rainey Mountain in Northeast Georgia Council. Everyone was required to take a Covid test prior to attending, so we knew that at least a week prior to camp everyone in attendance was ok. That could have changed with someone being infected after testing, but it appeared that everything went well in that regard, on one sent home during the week after becoming ill or not being cleared during twice a day temperature checks. There were things that were either modified or deleted from the program, such as shutting down ga-ga ball (although I am sure t
    1 point
  18. Sea Scouts and Exploring. Everyone will recall that Sea Scouts has been officially adopted by the US Coast Guard Auxiliary as its youth program, much as Navy Sea Cadets is the official youth program of the Navy. Sea Scouts can even have dual membership with the Auxiliary. The partnership is important, because it aligns Sea Scouts with a national organization with resources and reach -- including into the Coast Guard itself. Sea Scouts is a micro-sized program and needs to grow. Without a strong Auxiliary link being developed, it might be difficult to sustain Sea Scouts into the future.
    1 point
  19. In my son's crew most don't do advancement because they are tired of that grind. They practice the other methods of scouting and work together to plan and execute trips. reminder, Advancement is only one method of scouting.
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  20. As an adult member and former boy member, I won't completely rule out contributing to the victim compensation fund, one way or another. But it will really hang a weight around recruitment and retention. BSA's own internal review identified 12,254 victims in the Ineligble Volunteer Files (cited in a Washigton Post article). MSU's settlement in the Larry Nassar case was a little over $1.5 million per victim. Back in 2007, the Diocese of Los Angeles settled with over 500 alleged victims for about $1.3 million per victim. So that could add up to (very roughly) $18 billion for a "market rate"
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