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  1. 4 points
    Maybe the lack of mBs and no dining halls will allow scouts to have a real summer camp as described by BP instead of simply "living under canvas".
  2. 3 points
    My therapy advice to you would be relax, you're worried and thinking and planning a lot for it, they're not, and they're probably right. You have the age and experience to understand how many things could go wrong, how hard it could be for you personally, and how challenging it could be for everyone; they have the invincibility of youth, and believe, again probably correctly, that they'll be fine and everything will go right. "My son does cross country this should be easy" is an objectively accurate statement. Any reasonably fit teenager with good boots will be able to handle the trek you're describing. Now here's the really hard thing you should prepare yourself for --- you're not in charge, this isn't your adventure, and how you and the other adult think it should be conducted once you're there is irrelevant. This is the scouts' trek. How they want to do it is what counts. Your son is a part of that decision making, but you are not. Some of the most challenged and disputatious crews I've seen are those with an adult or adults who have an idea of the right way to do things that is different than the scouts'. You may think the right way to do it is to be up before dawn, on the trail early, and pushing hard as you go through the day. But it's not up to you, and if your scouts want to sleep a little later, be the last crew out of each station, and take their time goofing and laughing rather than pushing to that day's destination than THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. The mental challenge for you is to plan now for relaxing yourself through that possibility so that you're not miserable the whole time because you think they're doing it wrong. I don't know, and you don't know, and truth be told they don't know, how they're going to decide to conduct their trek. The best mental preparation you can do, for yourself and them, is to Be Prepared to have as your top priority and your goal just enjoying the time you spend with them as they decide how to do things. There is no right way or wrong way as long as it's their way, and remember you're just along for the ride (or walk as the case may be). As for prepping in the face of the very real possibility that the trek might be cancelled, that's challenging even for adults, for teenagers doubly so. The harder you train for something the deeper will be the disappointment when you can't do it. Backing off on the training is part of a natural protective mechanism to ameliorate the pain of that disappointment.
  3. 3 points
    Well said; here is a small cut/paste from the article regarding the Scoutmaster training at the U of Virginia: "Specific topics of study were; a Local Organization and its Relation to the Community, Benefits of Scout Work for Boys, Organization and Leadership, the American Boy and His Relation to Family Life, Scout problems and Country Life, and Scout Efficiency and its Relation to Citizenship. Special lectures and demonstrations were also given by experts in the fields of Local Bird and Animal Life, Forestry and Conservation, Local Rock and Geographical Formations, Indoor and Outdoor Programs for Scout Work, Knot Tying, First Aid and Bandaging, Fire Building, Tracking, and Camp Management." https://historyofscoutingva.wordpress.com/2018/12/31/scout-mastership-at-the-university-of-virginia/
  4. 2 points
    Few local Scouting enthusiasts realize that during the first decade of the Boy Scouting Movement, Charlottesville was the location of an early council that failed to survive its success. Read about it here...
  5. 1 point
    Friends, The initial announcements portend that we will be a different organization very soon. No more youth program past age 18. National will limit its activity to council services only. We will have a single "onboarding" membership platform. The regions and areas will be discontinued in favor of a downsized system. The organization will be rebranded after the bankruptcy is completed. Local councils will be significantly impacted, as the plaintiffs are primarily aiming at council assets. This includes camps, offices, everything. The BSA has had a very difficult time with the bankruptcy process, which will now be dragged out and more expensive because the insurance companies are litigating to get out of any liability. In essence, the opposition "wants it all" and that includes council assets. As we are recruiting this fall the BSA will be paying for a national media campaign to be sure 95% of men over age 50 know about the claims bar date in November. We will be smaller and with far fewer assets. This will be front page in the papers tomorrow.
  6. 1 point
    More: This is information that came directly from a widely-viewed general session at the virtual national meeting. The content was delivered directly by the National President/CEO, General Counsel and both the incoming and outgoing volunteer National Chairman. The news was delivered very directly. Readers of this site will perhaps be most interested in knowing that the program won't change, except for the ending of Venturing and Exploring program after age 17. The big impact of the way the bankruptcy has trended after the virus is that it has dragged and the plaintiff attorneys have experienced great success in identifying large numbers of clients. After a major advertising campaign this fall to identify more claimants (unfortunately scheduled during our recruiting season) there will bean even bigger number. The principal change is that now council assets be impacted in a significant manner. This is because the liability will be greater than expected (very large numbers of victims), the insurance companies are "pulling out", and the national assets will be insufficient to pay.
  7. 1 point
    Motivating boys for a normal HA trek has its own challenges. I wonder if anyone is also dealing with new challenges in these uncertain times. 1. I am an adult leader going with my son. We are the only ones from our Troop, joining another Troop that has 5 boys and 1 leader. I never met these other 5 boys before a few months ago. 2. Other boys are not attending group workout hikes, not scheduling 7 hours of conservation time for 50 miler, not creating duty roster, etc. Other leader tells me the other boys "just want to go camping at Philmont." That other leader is fully into it, worked hard to lose weight and prepare. The boys selected the shortest possible trek, with ATV involvement. Only 51 miles total over 12 days. My boy is trying to figure out how to break away and still climb Baldy. Ha. He saw the map and realized that's not a day hike from a southern trek. 3. The other leader and his son will already be out in NM when we arrive, so I am traveling with the other 4 boys and my son to get there. 4. I am getting anxious in that I want to see that the boys are all physically prepared for this ("My boy does Cross Country, this should be easy," is not the answer I accept, but I'm the odd adult who is not in the main Troop.). I want to see that they packed properly and have necessary skills (for our shakedown hike, the other 5 forgot lighters, didn't bring enough water, had light packs, nobody shared tents, had to be taught the taut line hitch, and one brought a hammock). I've bought the Southern Philmont maps for all, but the other boys don't want to see it. 5. The Crew Leader, Chaplains Aid, Leave No Trace boys are all part of that other 5. 6. I suspect that the boys don't want to go - as opposed to want to not go. They aren't in my Troop and I don't know the families. But my gut is many are hoping it gets cancelled and are passively avoiding any real prep. So, do I back off and let them learn from any mistakes? DO I hold off until June 1 when a "go decision" becomes more of a reality? Is the 12-1 ATV trek so easy that any 6 healthy 16 and 17 year olds can do it, so pushing them won't matter? Do I push them with the understanding that I hold no past or future leadership in their Troop? If I push them and Philmont gets cancelled, do I feed into a mindset that adults are just stupid and the boys banking on a cancellation were right all along? Yes, I'm looking for a little group therapy here. The other adult going is terrific and will be ready, but how can we best make sure the boys are ready? Tell me to back off or provide advice to help all of our crew have a great trek.
  8. 1 point
    @TimB as others said, you have little control in an HA aside from making yourself fit for anything that will come your way. And, given the behavior of this crew as a whole, you might be dealing with scouts who haven't even maintained their boots ... let alone their bodies. Ideally, right now, your scout (I'm not using "son," because at this point you need to detach yourself from your knowledge of his aspirations, emotions, etc ...) needs to be touching base with the other scouts every week or so. He needs to be the cheerleader, promoter, joke-teller ... whatever suits his personality. Selfies with his gear are in order. A socially distanced hike or service project is in order. (Online shakedown!) Anything that could be for the good of the group ... challenge him to think of it and put himself out there. I cobbled together a Seabase Bahamas crew from three different regions. There was a lot about that that was not perfect. But, there were things that went very very well. Building of a scouting fellowship among venturers was one of them. My WSJ troop was actually a lot harder to prepare because we had scouts from a dozen troops with different cultures. Worse, in their own troop they were pegged in one role, but in our troop that was irrelevant. Fortunately, most of the challenges happened via one or two scouts a day, so as leaders we could work through them. I talked to the advisor from the one crew in our region, and he said it was even tougher because his Sea Scouts and Venturers had few days of storming. I've debriefed enough Philmont crews to know that they face the same problems. The fittest, most well equipped boys will have a less than perfect time if they haven't learned to love one another. That scout spirit has to be the first thing in the backpack!
  9. 1 point
    Crew members that have different expectations because they come from different troops is exactly the reason we said no to 2 scouts wanting to join our trek. We are still locked down so no chance we can workout together but maybe your region is different. We have been doing gear/pack checks via Zoom and hoping that everyone is working hard at being ready so its great you can at least meet in person. Have you worked on bear bag hanging? Philmont cooking method? 56 miles over 12 days is 5 on average so you should not have too many issues.
  10. 1 point
    I dunno, I just feel moved to post something that was used in another thread some years ago. This is the original, it is often "adjusted" to allow for certain sensitivities, but I always like to go back to the original.... Maybe not appropriate for a ScoutsBSA Troop SMMinute, maybe more appropriate for an IOLS or Wood Badge Scoutmaster Minute, or maybe an EDGE Training session, but worth putting away in one's back pocket, "just in case"... Within My PowerBy Forest E. Witcraft (1894 - 1967), a scholar, teacher, and Boy Scout Executive and first published in the October 1950 issue of Scouting magazine. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *I am not a Very Important Man, as importance is commonly rated. I do not have great wealth, control a big business, or occupy a position of great honor or authority.Yet I may someday mold destiny. For it is within my power to become the most important man in the world in the life of a boy. And every boy is a potential atom bomb in human history.A humble citizen like myself might have been the Scoutmaster of a Troop in which an undersized unhappy Austrian lad by the name of Adolph might have found a joyous boyhood, full of the ideals of brotherhood, goodwill, and kindness. And the world would have been different.A humble citizen like myself might have been the organizer of a Scout Troop in which a Russian boy called Joe might have learned the lessons of democratic cooperation.These men would never have known that they had averted world tragedy, yet actually they would have been among the most important men who ever lived.All about me are boys. They are the makers of history, the builders of tomorrow. If I can have some part in guiding them up the trails of Scouting, on to the high road of noble character and constructive citizenship, I may prove to be the most important man in their lives, the most important man in my community.A hundred years from now it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove. But the world may be different, because I was important in the life of a boy.
  11. 1 point
    I'm not sure this is a good decision. As of today, we are moving from a now-closed Council camp to Summit's merit badge camp. We asked some questions including if they plan to reduce capacity. I was quite surprised that they intend to operate at full capacity. Here's some other info we got from them. a. All troops will be required to monitor scouts and adults temperatures daily beginning 5 days prior to arrival. b. Temperature checks and additional screening will be done upon arrival and daily while we are there. (So arrive early) c. Face Masks/PPE will be required to be worn by all. (Still working out those details.) d. Chow Hall will be run at 50% capacity and they are looking at having pre-packaged food for all meals. So no one has to serve, or anything like that. Yum, Yum!! e. Scouts will be required to monitor temperatures for two weeks after leaving. If anyone gets sick we must notify them immediately. f. Merit Badges/Brown Sea Island will still be done but with PPE. Not sure if PPE is just Face Masks or anything additional. Need to bring your own face masks.
  12. 1 point
    We did the same … "if you are not comfortable, do not send your son to camp". We also emphasized that while we will enforce rules and expect scouts to follow them, there will be times where there will be no direct adult supervision. I would rather have parents not send kids than have them send them thinking we are guaranteeing 100% chance of no infection. I am concerned as I think this summer may be the best chance to camp within the next 9 - 12 months. The virus spread may actually be higher in the fall, winter and next spring. I think the risk is actually pretty low right now, given number of infections in my area, which is why we are looking to camp now.
  13. 1 point
    Great article. I followed an embedded link to the other article about UVaS Scoutmaster training. Reading the content summary of that course should shame anyone who considers current scoutmaster training adequate.
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