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    Why do you assume that missing summer camp is a failure? Is that a requirement that I am not aware of? Can a scout not have a full and satisfying scouting experience through troop and patrol camping?
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    Last night I sat on an Eagle Board of Review. I admit I was surprised when found out who it was because I had not seen them in 5 years. I admit life threw him and his family some curve-balls and could understand why he wasn't around. But the shock involved weekend and long term. Found out that his troop goes to the same 4 places all the time, and they are in conjunction with merit badge universities. That is definitely the troop's fault. BUT here is the kicker in the 6 years he has been registered as a Scout, he has never been to a week long summer camp. That's right... NEVER BEEN TO A WEEK LONG SUMMER CAMP! (emphasis). I wondered how he could ever earn Camping MB, and looked it up. A week long camp out MAY (emphasis) be used to meet the 20 days and nights of camping. So who failed the Scout: Troop, National, or both?
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    It would be unfortunate for some that they had the double whammy. I hold my fingers crossed that we are not all going to be locked indoors through the summer. If we are, I am hopeful that these kids are going to be so bent on finally being outdoors when this is over that we are going to have them begging to go camping every weekend as long as the weather holds out!
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    Scoutteg83: I have no doubt that your Troop can have a wonderful time, learn the Scout stuff they should have as a Scout's legacy, if you have a suitable "Property" , parents willing to do what needs to be done, and the desire to let go and let your Scouts be Scouts. The planning, and execution of such an endeavor can only add to your friendships and memories. Way back in protozoic Scout time, my Troop's dads and (I guess) moms decided to sponsor a summer camp for our Troop. Somebody's brother's cousin owned some property up by Germantown MD. We soon were camping there on weekends. A spring was discovered and it was dug out, capped with a big concrete culvert and top, and a pipe inserted that provided good water. The stream that ran thru the valley was blocked sufficiently that we had first a place to cool food stuffs and then, further down, was dammed up to give us a deep spot to splash in if not actually swim. A privy was dug, and yes, Scouts dug that. Next, a three sided Adirondack (we learned that name) was built into the hillside with old phone poles. ( Mr. Atwell worked for the C&P Telephone company !) The old phone poles he obtained (!) were dragged in with Mr. Leaman's old war surplus Jeep. That became Mr. McDaniel's Quartermaster's cabin. He always had a cream seperater full of "Bug Juice" for passing Scouts. During our summer week stays, our Patrols would visit there everyday to draw our food supplies and such. It was a little more than a quarter mile hike into the camp ( I measured it for my Surveying Merit Badge) from the parking area, which itself was a couple of miles in on dirt roads from the paved ones. Everything came in on someone's back, or the Jeep. "The Property", as it was called, developed with two Patrol campsites on each side of the stream, with a bigger clearing for a Troop Campfire and "Scout's Own". On the west end, was a knocked down grove of dead American Chestnut, "the Dead Forest", where the nearby Patrols collected the best firewood for camp cooking. Chestnut burned with a blue hot flame, I have never seen the like since. We cooked or we went hungry. We drank water, reconstituted Tang, dry milk and hot cocoa. Mr. Walters taught us how to cook an entire pound of bacon in one pan all at once. We learned to work for and with each other, or we learned who we could NOT depend on, and thus charity. Other than the "official" Scout camps , and Philmont, I think we Scouts went to "the property" at least every other month, no matter the weather. We knew we could always hike and camp at "the Property". A one or two week long summer stay there was operated every summer of my later Scout career. In my collection, I have the woggles we made labeled "CF" for "Camp Freedom" . The Troop utilized The Property for many years after I moved on into adulthood, but was eventually sold, at least part of it, to a religious retreat center. I went up there with Scoutson, some years ago, and found the ruins of the cabin, and the concrete cap of the spring, now sunken into a marsh area. Scoutson often mused he would've liked to have been in "my" Troop. Scoutteg83, I can think of no better , more wonderful project than the one you envision. Good Scouting to you.
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    If treks are cancelled, it will be doubly sad for some Philmont crews. Many crews that couldn't go because of the Ute Park fire of 2018 opted for a 2020 trek. Then I recall what happened to my dad in the mid 1950s. Just as he was getting ready to board a bus in Iowa to go to Philmont, his scoutmaster received a telegram stating that Philmont was closed because of a disease (polio or measles, I can't recall). Life being what it is, he didn't get a second opportunity.
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    Message from UK Scout Association: Dear all, I'm writing to share critical pieces of information relating to the developing Coronavirus (COVID-19) situation. This email follows my previous communications with volunteer managers over the past few weeks. Late this afternoon, the Prime Minister has said that everyone in the UK should now avoid non-essential travel and contact with others. Suspension of face-to-face activities Given this guidance, all face-to-face Scout meetings, activities and events must be suspended from tomorrow, Tuesday, 17 March 2020. This suspension applies to young people and adults, and will be until further notice. We must continue to respond to the developing situation in a calm, measured and appropriate way. We will continue to follow official guidance. The safety of everyone involved in Scouts, both young people and adults, is our number one priority. That is always at the heart of our decision making. Government advice The Government's Coronavirus (COVID-19) webpage is frequently updated as things develop, so please check it regularly at www.gov.uk/coronavirus. Events Given the latest Government guidance, we are cancelling the following events: Day of Celebration at Windsor Beaver and Cub Fundays at Gilwell Park and Woodhouse Park Gilwell 24 We will be communicating to specific audiences about these event cancellations over the next week. We'd ask that you wait for this information to be sent out rather than contacting us immediately, due to the volume of enquiries we are currently receiving. Event organisers If you or your team are involved in organising any future Scout events, you will now need to review these plans and risk assessments given this new guidance. Jamborees and other large events If applicable, we suggest you regularly check the websites of relevant large-scale events, for example, Jamborees and camps, for specific updates from the organisers. European Jamboree The organisers of the European Jamboree 2020 in Poland have shared this update and continue to add to their frequently asked questions on the changing situation here. If applicable, please continue to monitor these updates. Scout trips abroad We asked the Government (the Department for Culture, Media and Sport) for clarity about youth groups travelling abroad, as the current advice only specifies school trips. We will let you know when we receive an update. As well as the Government Coronavirus (COVID-19) webpage, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website has the latest information, guidance and travel advice, along with details of any restrictions – which must be followed. Travel insurance The Coronavirus (COVID-19) situation may have implications for your travel insurance. Check with your insurers directly about the levels of cover. If you have taken insurance through Unity, they have provided an update here. Scout Information Centre The Scout Information Centre will only be able to deal with emails and web chat until further notice. As you can imagine, we are experiencing an unprecedented level of enquiries at the moment, so please use the Government guidance as your primary reference where possible. Keeping you updated The Government have now committed to daily briefings. So we can keep you up to date, we have created a webpage: scouts.org.uk/coronavirus which we'll update from tomorrow. Doing our bit I think we all agree that it's in challenging times like these, that our Scout values matter most. We are talking to the Government and other community organisations to see how Scouts can support our country during this crisis. We must make sure that we do this in the safest possible way, and don't put anyone at further risk. We will update you more on this over the coming weeks. Scouting at home We are planning to share activities for young people to do at home with their parents if families are faced with self-isolation. We will be communicating more about this soon. Thank you As always, I want to say a big thank you for everything you do for Scouts. By checking and following the latest Government advice and by taking a calm and measured approach, we can continue to ensure that young people and adults stay safe. Best wishes, Tim Kidd UK Chief Commissioner Scouts
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    Hello and welcome, I would say though scouting is global, all scouting is local, and while it looks more or less the same from the outside, you can only really see if it's a good fit for you if you try it. I'd recommend you to go find your local group and see how it feels.
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    @69RoadRunner, I was thinking that we should extend it through December for any scout who turned 18 during this national emergency and was willing to serve as an ASM. That would not only help ambitious scouts who were about to knock out their next rank, it would motivate scouts who maybe had given up on advancement a chance to try for that next award (be it 2nd class or their next Palm). MB work is, by definition, independent ... at most in small groups no greater than 10. What's novel is the virtual meetings with MBCs. The really tough part: getting two adults to support a patrol activity. Then, leading that activity or leading the troop remotely.
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    Call plasterers, painters, collision shops and ask if they have any N95 masks that they could donate to local hospitals.
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    I would call local old folks homes and ask if there's anything your scout can do to help. Make videos or cards to send. Maybe they have a special need that you can gather at home and mail in. You can also reach out to animal shelters and see what their need is. You could run a food donation drive with drop off service, so no one has to get out of their car. Social distancing doesn't mean the world stops.
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    The one thing I can think of is grocery delivery in smaller towns. Mr/Mrs Smith call the Troop scribe. Scribe parcels out the task to a Scout. Scout gets to store and delivers groceries to front stoop. Scout calls Mr/Mrs Smith from the sidewalk. Scout observes Mr Mrs Smith take groceries inside.
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    UK status report: As of Tuesday, UK HQ stopped all face to face scout meetings or camps of any kind from now on until advised otherwise. Same with Girl Guiding (Girl Scouts). All three campsites I know locally have shutdown, no third party hires, no volunteer maintenance crews. Scout groups that own their own buildings advised to not sublet to any non-scout groups, presumably to avoid having to have people go in to open up or clean, and to avoid liability issues if someone catches covid-19 while there. Unsurprisingly, many (most) large camps and Jamborees right through until July have cancelled completely, or rescheduled for next year, as they were having to book activities and so on now and pay deposits. Am keeping a watching brief for our much smaller summer camp in July/August, and a 500 capacity camp we run in September. All pretty unprecedented. Oh, and then scrolling down I see you already know this. Doh!
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    So, I decided to join the community to decide if I'm really interested in scouting, soo I hope all this info will help me to make the right decision. I'm going to check as many history threads here as it's possible.
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    Also from https://www.philmontscoutranch.org/coronavirus/ Status of Upcoming Winter/Spring Programs The following Winter/Spring programs have been canceled at this time: March 20-22 – Cub Scout National Camp School March 21-28 – PhilBreak Session 4 March 30-April 4 – Resident National Camp School April 24-26 – NM Search and Rescue Council ESCAPE Conference We will continue to evaluate future programs/events and will communicate any changes if they arise. ...... Status of Summer Programs (Treks, Training Center, and Staff) No summer programs have been canceled or affected at this time. We will continue to monitor and consult with experts and provide updates as they become available. It is important to continue everyday prevention measures. As you prepare for your Philmont adventure, decisions about unit meetings and trek preparation activities should be made by unit leadership and chartering organizations based on the unit’s individual circumstances and current CDC and local health department guidelines.
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    Cut/paste from https://www.philmontscoutranch.org/coronavirus/ Philmont Closed to the Public Until April 1st Update: 3/17/20 – 10:45 AM Following CDC guidelines and recommendations from the state of New Mexico, Philmont has made the decision to close to the public until April 1st. This decision affects the National Scouting Museum, Tooth of Time Traders (toothoftimetraders.com remains open), and all offices. Conferences and Winter Adventure activities of more than 10 have also been canceled. Staff will remain on-site and continue to work, with efforts to increase social distancing. If you need assistance please call us at 575-376-2281 and we will be happy to help. This decision does not affect summer programs. We are hopeful that the widespread social distancing and containment efforts will help stop the spread of this virus. We will continue to monitor developments regarding COVID-19 and provide updates as they are available. Additional updates and information will be shared on this page. PhilBreak Session 4 Cancelled Update: 3/17/20 – 9:30 AM Following CDC guidelines and New Mexico state recommendations, Philmont has made the decision to cancel PhilBreak Session 4. Depending on how you registered, you can expect to receive a refund in the next 7 to 21 days. As always, your safety and the safety of all our participants, guests, volunteers, and employees is our top priority. This decision does not affect summer treks. We are hopeful that the widespread social distancing and containment efforts will help stop the spread of this virus. We will continue to monitor developments regarding COVID-19 and provide updates as they are available.
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    Contact the DE and ask for advice. I can't imagine they won't extend the time, but there might be a process that should be followed. Also, your scout might be the reason they come up with policies for this problem now, which is going to catch a lot of scouts in the same boat. Barry
  18. -2 points
    For crying out loud, we have more things to worry about than scouts getting advancements with made up community service projects. The best community service is to stay home and help your family.
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