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Thank you all for you thoughtful responses. I wanted to put this out there to temper my initial emotional response and hear varying perspectives. I have listened and considered each of your points. I do agree that a stronger policy on meds and phones would have spared the troop this misfortune. Thank you to those who pointed that out. A few answers to queries: I am a trained leader. I have also completed the committee chair training as well as the merit badge counselor training. There was another Scout leader present. It should be noted both he and the scoutmaster are good friends. This

That's it! Stop blaming the girl. Blame Canada!

No I don't. Were there any ads like "American girls, your path to Eagle is through Canada. Keep Exploring and more in Canada..." ?

Would you happen to know if it is a common practice for Canada? Or were the Canadian scouts just trying to mess with us?

Nah, chances are they're still clean. Everyone knows Scouts don't change underwear at camp.

This is where I disagree. It should be the Chartered Organization's policy that prevails in this situation. If the CO is a church or school that regularly searches the luggage before an overnight trip, then it should be the same with the Boy Scout troop. If the CO doesn't conduct searches, then they shouldn't search the Boy Scouts either.

Nobody has a problem with a SM taking actions directly related to addressing safety. The original posting has zero to do with safety and all to with an over-bearing SM trying to enforce HIS policies, not the Troop's Youth Leaders' policies. That is a problem. Even if it was a health & safety issue, I firmly believe he should still have a second person there as a witness. There's no way in hell I'm rooting around anywhere a scout keeps his underwear without a second set of eyes present.

Well if she wants to be recognized as an Eagle for work she done retroactively so she can be the first, I am thinking why not? Then we can go back and retroactively recognize all female Sea Scout Quartermasters, Venturing Silver and Summit recipients as Eagle Scouts and possible the female Explorer Achievement and G.O.L.D. Award recipients if those two awards are comparable. After all, fair is fair.

And the advantage of Liberty is not having to put up with songs, skits, announcements and waiting to be dismissed.

Just an update, I wanted to keep the original ribbon, so I did clean it with Dawn soapsuds and a soft tooth brush (gently), removing the ribbon from the scroll first. Then rinsed it well, and dried it with a hair dryer. I'd say it removed about 80% of the dirt, and it looks much better now. Thanks for all the advice.

If a Scout claims to be agnostic - and I have had that conversation, the basic definition I fall back on is a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God My view was the Scout was in fact developing his beliefs. He was trying to define. He did not claim there was no God, just he was not really sure. We spoke on beliefs and that true, you likely could not prove the existence of God. This particular Scouts issue was more with organized religion

It says that if female scouts are negotiating with the terrorists, there must be at least one female adult terrorist present. Cub scouts are only allowed to negotiate with terrorists armed with BB guns. When terrorists are detonating bombs, the scouts must be accompanied by an NRA-certified Range Safety Officer.

I'm convinced that the impetus for lame dining halls at summer camp is lazy adults, not lazy scouts. Most scouts I've met LIKE cooking their own meals.

It's also important that kids get an OPPORTUNITY to do and learn through experience. Pre-cooked everything is just a babystep away from sending mom to the nearest McDonalds for fast junk food instead of bothering with camp stoves. Am I the only person who thinks it's unconscionable that MOST BSA summer camps have eliminated patrol cooking in favor of mess halls where a surrogate mom fixes meals for the kids? The pitiful argument that it lets kids have more time to squeeze in an extra merit badge only shows the foolish over-emphasis on checkbox advancement embodied by too many scouters.

All excellent points, but this is the one I see after 50 registered years: • Adults - either do not know or do not accept that they are not the leaders but are, instead, coaches, mentors, and resources.

How to improve Scout Summer Camp Purpose: to encourage the ideals of Scouting and provide opportunities for the Scout to learn and exhibit those ideals. Technique: 1) Eliminate the dining hall. All Scouts live and work in Patrols, "under canvas". Patrols build their own campsite (except tent platforms and tents), setting up their own Dining flies and Dining/Cooking areas. Because of the need to reuse and not totally destroy the campsite, the camp would provide the poles and ropes and such, and would provide "guides" to help the Troop/Patrols lash up and set up their camp gear.

At camp it's difficult enough for the coffee truck to make its way to all the campsites in the morning early enough before the flag ceremony. Oh lord, nothing worse than adults crying bout not getting their coffee. I get it, but sometimes things happen. You can get your coffee at breakfast. Deal with it. I like coffee too. Stop complaining! Someone get this scouter their coffee so we can get some relative peace here!

I'd agree. That council decided that her work completed in the Canadian Scouting Association warranted recognizing her with a rank of Life. People can say it should not have happened - but it did. That decision is done. Now that she is a Life Scout, she has to wait until October 2020 to be awarded an Eagle rank? From what I can tell, she's already 18 (or close to it) and asking her to wait means she'll be 19 or 20 before it happens. I imagine she'll be off at college and far from day to day Scouting when this happens. This seems like penalizing a youth for adult decisions. I though