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  1. I've been toying with the idea of getting a group of scouts together as a "reenactor" colorguard for the U.S. 100th anniversary of scouting. My vision is to have a group of boys to do colorguards in 1910 era uniforms at various scouting and community functions. I can't see using heirloom uniforms and museum pieces for this, so I'm investigating the possibility of creating replica uniforms. I've read the statement somewhere that "once a scout uniform, always a scout uniform," but this, I think, is uncharted ground. Before I proceed, I wanted to get some others' opinions on the app
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  2. As it happens, my home council, Heart of America, appears to be one of the first out of the starting blocks with Arrow women. Tamegonit #147 held a special winter induction
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  3. Or most likely, the boots-on-the-ground don't give a rip over their respective organization's battle for brand identity. So, they are leveraging their collaboration to do good in the world.
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  4. Years ago now I subscribed to the actual Scouter Magazine connected to the Forum. Look what I found hidden in a box.
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  5. I wouldn't say I'm disturbed, but a bit disappointed. National sometimes has challenges getting the verbiage crystal clear on the first roll out. When the changes to the tenting rules and YPT were made in 2019, that language was updated to: "Youth sharing tents must be no more than two years apart in age." Which is clear, concise, and decisive. It leaves no room for interpretation. YPT is important and shouldn't have grey areas and interpretive "wiggle room" in it. I get it. National doesn't really have that much staff. Less than volunteers would think there are. Those folks are underpaid
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  6. We usually concentrate on getting our limit during the elusive "Camp Card Season". Honestly we do neither (popcorn or camp cards) but enjoy issuing tags to hunters, we're busy camping and letting the Boy Scouts go out and do stuff
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  7. When snipe season is outlawed, only outlaws will have a snipe season.
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  8. A scout has the first amendment right to protest without being punished by the government. BSA has a right to tell a scout that certain conduct is expected while in uniform and if a scout violates those rule, membership can be revoked. Doing this in uniform in wrong. Not illegal, but wrong. As was mentioned above, feel free to protest as your beliefs dictate, but not in uniform. I hope BSA lets the scout and parents know that this is not appropriate in uniform. This is an issue perfectly appropriate for discussion in the Citizenship in the Community merit badge.
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  9. Not the time and place for this. We have specific requirements around flag ceremonies, tied directly to advancement in some cases. (Wolf Duty to Country #1, Bear Paws for Action #1, etc). Scouts are often known for their participation in flag ceremonies, color guard, etc. This doesn't sit right with me. And for the record, I'm politically liberal and generally ok with similar protests. This just doesn't seem like an appropriate venue and circumstance for this protest. We're not a "do whatever you want" organization. We have specific requirements to be a member, things you have to agr
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  10. Should scouts be allowed to protest while wearing the uniform? A time and place...?
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  11. My default answer is maybe.....Here's what I believe the requirement states (from https://oa-bsa.org/about/membership): Have experienced 15 nights of camping while registered with a troop, crew, or ship within the two years immediately prior to the election. The 15 nights must include one, but no more than one, long-term camp consisting of at least five consecutive nights of overnight camping, approved and under the auspices and standards of the Boy Scouts of America. Only five nights of the long-term camp may be credited toward the 15-night camping requirement; the balance of the campin
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  12. Gold = Command Blue = Sciences Red = Engineering & Security. Also "first person killed on an away team mission"
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  13. Been looking to form an honor guard for parades and courts of honor. Been looking at getting some old BSA issue leggings. Saw the discussion on spats and leggings. Regardless of "Uniform Police" comments posted, you have to admit, these kids look pretty squared away. I don't see anything wrong with it.
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  14. And look at that, it has the American flag over the pocket, not on the shoulder. At least this way there are no arguments about whether the flag is "backwards" or not. I realize that doesn't help you very much, but I am sure someone around here will be experienced in the ways of memorabilia display, which I am not.
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  15. I put together a 1910 BSA field uniform for the Centennial Jamboree and for the spring and fall camporees which can be be in quite "chilly" temperatures (yes, we have had snow at the camporees), I still wear the uniform. Long wool underwear, wool socks, pants and leggings. The shirt is wool as is the tunic, The campaign hat is wool felt. Never get cold all weekend long. There's a reason why BSA had that uniform originally. We're the only troop I have ever met that has the full square neckers. They are large as well, hang beyond the belt on the smaller guys. To the belt or a bit abo
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  16. I wish the uniforms looked like that now honestly.
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  18. I kinda like the community strips, more information than trying to memorize a ton of troop numbers and where they are from. BTW, 1910 uniform with appropriate hat/collar brass and BSA buttons. Finding a community strip for the 1960 uniform was a piece of cake, buttons? they're a whole different ballgame. If one were to look closely at the equipment, it too is historically correct right down to the tent pegs.
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  19. I've been able to use E-Bay for my source of vintage stuff, but I've looked for years and some stuff never comes up. I got lucky on the community strip. I got it off of E-Bay only to find out it was being sold by a scouter a few miles away. Go to old clothing stores and antique shops, the vintage uniforms are there and the one-size-fits all community strip is often just down the street.
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  20. This gentleman was one of my Eagle scouts. The uniform he is wearing is the same one he did his Eagle project in. It's the same uniform he wore every week to meetings. As you can tell from the insignia and Eagle knot he was at the time my ASM. He went and got appropriate 1960's ASM patch when he aged out. He had a difficult time, but he did find the community strip, too. Any historic uniform is a valid BSA uniform, but one must make sure the insignia is historic as well.
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  21. By the way, does anyone have a picture of a Norman Rockwell painting of a scout in anything other than a field uniform? Stosh
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  22. I'm sure the Marine Corps soldier that has to dress up in his/her dress blues isn't happy or proud about it either. Those wool coats must be a bear in warm weather. I'm also certain those police officers who have to wear body armor and dark blue uniforms must complain all the time too. And what idiot robs a bank in the middle of July wearing a ski mask for crying out loud. Some people just don't care what they wear as long as it's personally comfortable. A uniform is optional, so knock yourself out all those who find it objectionable in some way. But then don't be surpris
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  23. The era of shirts I use come in 100% cotton and are always looking wrinkled. Not much use in the winter, but then one can wear other garments more appropriate underneath. The shirt I wear is a cotton/polyester blend which is still poor quality for winter, but it doesn't need ironing. This is my workhorse of a uniform. The third shirt, and I have one, is a wool blend of some sort which is used when I'm going to be doing a lot of outdoor stuff in the winter. Not much wear on that uniform. I tend to like the cotton/poly because of it's wrinkle-free appearance, durability of t
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  24. Can't remember the last time I picked off a tick and with our area infested with Lymes, that's a good thing. I really don't like the idea of dousing myself with Deet either. Wild raspberries, hawthorn, buck thorn, wild roses and such really take their toll on the legs, extra few layers is really helpful. It might look a bit weird, but I'm wearing the same pants I bought when I first started as an ASM (1993). The leggings prolong the life of the material, The cotton leggings might be a bit warm in the summer, but 3-4 weeks of poison ivy rash vs. looking a bit dorky? I'll take dorky, thank
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  25. Looking at 100 years of uniforming, I like a couple of things over the years that have come and somewhat gone. The original BSA uniform was a shirt and tunic coat. That allowed the coat to be taken off when warm and put on when cold. Collar brass and hat brass identified the uniform and rank. Shirt basically didn't have rank because it was on the hat and tunic. Leg wrappings kept the pants protected in heavy brush and kept the ticks out. They could be replaced cheaper than pants. Square necker was functional. Full-wide brimmed hat was functional. Wool was eventual
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  26. Actually, my son has worn the WWII uniform quite a few times - our family all reenacts WWII and he portrays a WWII Boy Scout of his current rank. He has not been able to wear his original items lately because he outgrew the shirt he wore & I can't find a larger one. Depending on how he feels, he will wear the pants or the britches. I am amazed by the quality of the workmanship on this old clothing compared to that of today.
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  27. The two best places I have found to get a reproduction scout uniform from the teens are: http://www.schipperfabrik.com/ami_uniforms.html (1912 cotton tunic and breeches for $224.95 -or- http://www.greatwar.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=42 Every other place I have found is overseas, which means more expensive shipping and such. Buying a reproduction WW1 US Army tunic does mean you have to ask for a few modifications if you want a more exact match to what Scouts actually wore. Both of the above companies are willing to leave off the epaulets, and to either leave off the
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  28. It's nice to see other people with point of view. As a reenactor, I'm all for wearing the old style uniform. FYI, here is a good pic of the top: http://www.njscoutmuseum.org/treasures.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BSA_War_Service_Uniforms_1917_18.jpg Also some great pics from through the years at: http://histclo.com/Youth/youth/org/sco/country/us/scoutus.htm If it comes up asking for a password, just hit cancel. Usually it lets me see all the pics anyway. Go figure. http://bowrose.com/NewTroopContent/pages/HISTORICPHOTOS.htm When you look at the picture from NJ (
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  29. How about a 4 pocket tunic with stand-up collar and jodpur pants and leggings? 4 corner necker and campaign hat. No one will mis-identfy one as a scout...! Too hot in the summer? That's bogus, I wear wool uniforms at events all summer long and at 59 years of age, I've never gone down from the heat. Yes, in Virginia and Pennsylvania in the summer the heat indexes can reach up well over 100 degrees. 7 2-quart canteens of water in an afternoon? Yep, been there, done that. If a reproduction centennial uniform were available, would I buy one? Yep! I bid one of my size on E-Bay
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  30. Hey its great that you two replied to my thread. We too trained with several military branches. We started out with our local Nationa Guard unit. Then moved on to an honor unit in another town that did the silent drills which were NO.1 in the state of Missouri. They have also march in the parades whit an Honor Marine drill team. The boys really look up to these men with a lot of respect. Which its all about. They only have to tell them one time and its in memory. Myself........... I was never in the military. I also feels its my way as well to show my respect to our vets and soldiers
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  31. My troop did this regularly when I was a boy. We opened conventions at least monthly, presented the colors, and frequently led 1000+ people in the pledge of allegiance. I remember working very hard to make everything right, but no one ever complained. I found out later that we would receive honoraria of $100-$500 almost every time we went which no doubt provided camperships, uniforms, etc. as well as equipment for the troop. A troop near me has started doing colorguards as well with great success. They have help from an ex-marine (yes I know, Once A Marine. . ., but he's too young to
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  32. and in the late 70's early 80's the BSA supply division in cooperation with Boy's Life came out with a special "Pedro Edition" of the Wool Jac-Shirt. It was sent to Leaders only and was Red and Green Plaid. I got my hands on one.. my Dad was a Scouter back in the old days...70's and 80's and he recieved one of these jac's. He never wore it and gave it to me (in plastic) when I became a Scouter. It is quite the conversation piece..
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  33. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/08/year-old-takes-knee-during-pledge-city-council-meeting-mayor-endorses-expression-conscience/
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