Jump to content


Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 02/28/19 in all areas

  1. 4 points
    @ItsBrian enjoy your last day as a Life Scout! 😉
  2. 3 points
    I definitely believe they are equal in importance. There are times that some methods are more relevant to a situation. To me Ideals and Personal Growth are always in play. The rest rise and fall according to the situation. Take Uniform for example, as it seem be the lowest on most list. I have seen units present the troop necker at crossovers and watch the pride in the eyes of he new Scouts as they put it on and became part of the troop. . I have seen troops where most or all of the Scouts couldn't afford their uniforms and the unit did things to allow the Scouts to earn their uniform, through fundraisers and service, those Scouts were proud to show of they uniform that they earned. Even with my son, when he was a young Scout, if we stopped somewhere after a meeting or outing, he would remove his uniform shirt or cover it up. I could tell the reason was he felt it was a little bit "geeky". I never said anything, I just wore mine with pride. He saw how people reacted, telling us their own scouting stories or with compliments or just a simple thank you. After a time he stopped taking the shirt off in public. And all of those Scout t-shirts that only came out for Scouting events worked their way into his daily wardrobe to school and everywhere else. Today he is very proud to wear his uniform and show everyone he is a Scout. The sense of belonging and pride is a powerful thing.
  3. 3 points
  4. 3 points
    Thank you all for the replies. I reached out to the family and they thought it a nice gesture for the boys to wear their uniforms in support of their friend and fellow Scout.
  5. 2 points
    Have them turn the problem into the plot of "Newsies". Your son needs to find an old press and start their own paper to battle Joseph Pulitzer who owns the concession on the elementary school newspaper
  6. 1 point
    @ScouterCC87 welcome to the forums, the requirement gives you options: (Emphasis mine.) Did this patrol start out as 5 scouts? If it has done all of those other requirements for national honor patrol, and it added a scout in the process, then the requirement is met. If not, they need to recruit one more member. To earn it again, they will have to recruit another member, but then they'll be 8 and all they have to do is maintain membership and complete the other requirements in the next quarter.
  7. 1 point
  8. 1 point
    You've heard me say it many times; the best thing scouts can learn from adults is humility. Otherwise, I just soon the adults stay 100 yards away. But, the Scouting program reputation alone can change an adult's attitude. Stopping at a New Mexico convenience store for gas and junk-food while on our way to Philmont, our scouts presence in the small store was almost overwhelming. I was a little nervous at first when a robust female truck driver called some of the scouts over to her. She, in her cigarette ting voice, apologized for wearing a sexually offensive t-shirt. This seasoned truck driver admitted to being very embarrassed in the presence of Boy Scouts. Maybe there should be a "Scout" Association Method. At the very least, plus one for the Uniform Method. Barry
  9. 1 point
    IMHO, part of Adult Association for scouts is learning to process the imperfections and sometime contradictions that are adults. Adults make mistakes but hopefully they also fess up and make amends. Adults want me to do as they say but not as they do, the rules don't apply to them? Adults accept some bad or some imperfections for the greater good. All confusing to process especially when you are young. My $0.02, P.S. A few years ago, our unit was camping in Acadia (Maine). I thought it would be a hoot to have a local give our scouts some lobster cooking tips. The other adults present, which were way, way too many (lobster), were horrified. What bring Martha Stewart here, She's a convicted felon!
  10. 1 point
    A knight of the realm not a good role model? Personally anointed by her Majesty The Queen Elizabeth II? Blimey guv'nor you've got some high standards ain'tcha? Ian P.s. 😉 (just in case)
  11. 1 point
    So I think we have an oversensitivity issue here. How a Chartered Organization obtains it's money and it structures it's budget is none of the BSA's concern nor is it their business. If the Chartered Organization has a Bingo or a Raffle to raise money for the Troop - that is their business. The Troop is benefitting what the CO does, and the BSA has no say in how they operate it. If it is a BINGO then it needs to be handled legally, with the Troop or Crew Benefitting. Can a Unit run said Bingo or raffle? No. PERIOD. However - there is NOTHING that says that the chartered organization can not do so for the benefit of. However - for any benefit, the rules are plain as day - DISCLOSURE, DISCLOSURE, DISCLOSURE. It is not the Unit's business how the CO operates either - and they shouldn't. They should only focus on ensuring that they are running their program according to IRS rules and regulations (i.e. 1099's each year for Scout Accounts, Fundraising for the program that is planned every year.) The only thing the Unit should do is mind it's own business - as the CO minds theirs - and yours - as they OWN the unit. Not vice versa.
  12. 1 point
    I think thee most important of the 8 is whichever one the unit is ignoring. Often this is Adult Association, which is probably the least understood of them. They all should be balanced for the unique needs of each scout.
  13. 1 point
    Regional Jamborees sounds like a great concept. I enjoy scouting events of all types and really enjoy meeting my fellow scouters from other troops, towns, states etc. We've got a lot of excellent people in this organization! Wish I had a chance to shake hands with all of 'em...
  14. 1 point
    I think we may be making different points then. When I hear subset I think of a part of or a division of the CO. When I hear subsidiary I think of a seperate organization that is controlled by the CO. I would think the topic of Scouting unit members (whether Scouts or Scouters) being considered members of the CO itself is probably a technical question more about the membership policies of the CO. If we wanted to go with a more generic definition of member "as someone who is participant in a programing of the CO" then yes, I would say that being a member of the Scouting unit makes you a member of the CO. However, now I'm getting pretty speciifc of how one defines membeship. My real point is simply that the scout unit is designed to be part of the programming of the CO. The Scouting unit is not intended to be a seperate organization that simply is owned by CO. I made that point because I find that it is beneficial to the pack or troop to actively seek opportunities to participate in the life of the CO itself.
  15. 1 point
    My church has a program for the homeless - I attend a large urban church downtown in our community. To come and participate in that homeless outreach program you don't have to be a member of the church. To volunteer, you don't have to be a member of the church. You just come help. Yet, no one would suggest that this homeless outreach program isn't a part of the church's program. I think we're too hung up on the question of CO membership here. I grew up in a different faith, but my wife & I decided to celebrate religion together and so we attended the church of her faith. I participated for a decade without being a member. Our pack & troop are similar. We regularly do things at/for/with our CO (also Presbyterian church). Set up for events, help with their service projects, make improvements to the grounds, etc.
  16. 1 point
    We tell our scouts that the CO (a Presbyterian church) considers the troop to be their ministry. As such, we help set up some of their activities/fundraisers with no thought as to money being exchanged. They make sure that there are extra doughnuts on Scoit Sunday. Everybody wins.
  17. 1 point
    I would guess he's probably been poorly served by his production company, and maybe the Bulgarian authorities. I wouldn't be surprised if the first he heard of it was shortly before it hit the press. Someone in an office, some fixer somewhere, had to get permission to film there, it wouldn't have been Grylls, that person or persons either missed the national park restrictions, or chose to ignore them, or maybe even bunged officialdom a few lev. Who knows? I don't. But I'd guess by the time Bear got briefed before the trip it was like "we're off for the usual schtick in Bulgaria with celebrity X, see you on the 14th, bring one of your branded knives". At some point a minion should have gone "wait, we can't do x y z here, will that be okay?" so they could then either change the location, or not do it, or yes, I suppose, choose to ignore it. I mean, if they're filming it, they're hardly going to get away with it. Of course, the cynic in me wouldn't be surprised if the frog killing bit was done outwith the National Park (ok, yeah, or just done anyway) at a different time, all is actually by the book, and all this is just free publicity. The actual truth is probably lost in the murky grey fog.
  18. 1 point
    I'll push back on that ... Leadership Development (through responsibility, service projects) is a method. Actual leadership (e.g., scout gets his friends to pick up litter, leads a school assembly in the national anthem, calls a buddy out on pushing drugs, etc ...) is the expected outcome. Personal growth as a method is embodied in the Scoutmaster Conference. In fact GBB's handbooks calls it a personal growth conference. The outcome is a young adult who can take is place among other noble adults in the wide world. Most of us would agree that providing the scouts opportunity for responsibility, service, and conferences with caring adults is a linchpin of the program. Other groups have outdoor components, high-minded ideals, uniforms, awards, teams, etc ... But few really strive for leadership and personal growth in the rounded fashion that troop life offers. That said, I see these methods as overlapping (e.g., to advance, you must attend to leadership and personal growth) and can't imagine one outweighing the other.
  19. 0 points
    There is nothing "back-door" about it. When you voluntarily walk through the front door of our church, you are fair game for proselytizing and conversion. It is bad enough that some "non-Christians" insist on removing every vestige of Christian religion from the public square. When they start insisting that we can't freely practice our faith within our own four walls, that's too much.