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I have been married going on 44 years. My wife once asked me "if something happens to me, would you find someone else?" My immediate response now would be "hell no!" She has some "liberal feminist" friends who behave worse than any of my horndog male buddies ever did but are staunchly in favor of hanging Kavanaugh out to dry. Why would I risk subjecting myself to that? Ladies, I'm afraid you've "screwed the pooch" this time...so take your pink hats and leave me alone.

Scramble like heck. Call your caouncil venturing committee. Let your DE know. Community college APO, church youth leaders. And ... GS/USA commissioners. You might get your leader, you might not. But you'll feel better trying.

Hey! I just bought one of those on ebay, and intend to wear it with my retro uniform!

Sadly, I've heard your view from scouts too. Add also discussions from them on why many different types of laws need to change. Laws on everything from liability to the oldest profession laws. ... I've always been amazed what we can overhear as adult leaders when you are good at blending into the background.

I have never really considered myself overly religious, but do consider myself to be quite reverent. I rarely attend church now, I have attended regularly in spurts over the years, but not now. I work with people of several faiths and beliefs and respect their customs. I am not closed to their thoughts or actions. I respect their needs to pray, say grace before meals, attend services,etc. I participate in such activities when I am with them but not usually at home with family. It was not the way I was raised or my husband. The Scout Law says be reverent not be religious. There really is a

There are no female adults camping at this event at all? Not just the pack and host troop, but the whole event doesn't have a female attending and camping? If there is 1 female somewhere on the grounds during the event then the requirement should be met. The requirement in my interpretation says a female scouter must be there, not that the unit must provide 1. My way fulfills the letter of the requirement but not the spirit. But if YPT guidelines are going to stupid (I totally agree this is a ridiculous rule in Cubs) then fulfilling the letter of the requirement is all that is needed. Dad can

OK, it got personal. So I locked this thread. If another moderator wants to unlock it, I will not object.

Hey all, Just found out about this forum a few days ago. I was a Scout until around Tenderfoot and I dropped out. My son wanted to try it. He started at the beginning and is now a first class scout. I have been a Charter Org Rep, A Committee member, a assistant Den Leader, a Den Leader and most recently an Assistant Scoutmaster. This past month I just completed the wood badge training, Now to work my ticket!

I would like to ask the moderators to transfer this thread/discussion to the "Faith and Chaplaincy" Forum. Oh, wait....

This is life destroying levels of wrong. . . people making false reports should be punished, if they are allowed to get away with it things are only going to get worse. https://triblive.com/local/regional/14142176-74/lawsuit-accuses-seneca-valley-mean-girls-of-targeting-teen-boy-with-false

Ok - then how about we only let scouts who's parents go attend? Since when has it ever been a requirement that your parents attend? I was never advocated that the BSA had to admit girls. But now that it's happened, we've got to be fair. If a troop invites a den with girls, the troop has to make sure it has the staff to support it. If it doesn't that's the troops fault - don't blame the girl you invited. What kind of example is that?

I'll be honest, I think you'll be hard-pressed to find really good materials for multi-rank meetings because, in the end, it just doesn't work to combine dens. I have found that it's FAR better to have one or two kids in a den and really focus on their materials than it is to combine the ages. To a 6 year-old, a 7 year-old is a big kid who can easily take control of activities. To a 9 year-old, an 8 year-old is a small fry who can slow down adventures and frustrate plans. If you have to combine, make it temporary and DON'T accept it as the status quo. But it really doesn't work to put them all

And the quickest way to make the rest of the Troop/Pack resentful is to cancel a trip because Suzie's mom doesn't want to go camping, so we can't go either.

Guys won't come out and say it publicly, at least I am not hearing anything, but they are afraid of this. When polled, the #MeTo movement was mentioned in the anonymous online poll we took. One Scout described a situation occurring similar to the OP's link. And I can understand. My brother was accused of molesting my nieces by his ex-wife to get custody. Thankfully he was able to prove innocence, but it nearly destroyed him. Even though he had joint custody, whenever he had the kids, he stayed at my mom's house with them.

I've wondered how this affects young men. I know many young men right now that are just not interested in dating. It's very strange and alien to me. I always thought it was internet and online gaming. I suspect this is a strong contributor.

since you raised the question, How does going to church show your duty to God? You can practice religion without going to Church. And there are plenty of youth that go to church that aren't Religious.

I think it's just way cool that someone took the time to make this count. It sure saved me from wasting a lot of time.

It’s not everything, but more overall numbers means more ability to afford summer camps, high adventure camps, better materials, etc.

The answer is neither correct, nor incorrect. It describes the decision. In bold you state it is the "belief" these decisions are best... Those who disagree are pointing out why they disagree with the decision. As someone in leadership of many organizations I can say with certainty it is very common for initial decisions for new ideas to eventually be changed. The question is whether leadership listens to the concerns regarding the initial decision and makes appropriate adjustments, or whether they double-down and insist they are correct. I can say with certainty that the latter does not

I'm not trying to force you to cancel. I think you're doing a great thing by trying to someone to attend to make it possible for her to go. Since you feel hamstrung by the threat from your Scouts, let me lay out my thinking: Here we've got a case where a troop has invited a Webelos den to go camporee with you. You are now faced with the prospect of having to tell a member of that den she cannot attend simply because she is a girl. If I recall correctly you've got something like 30 scouts in your troop. That's 20+ moms and/or wives who could attend. But, they choose not to. I'm a

I have really mixed emotions about the advice to find a DE, scouter from another pack, any warm female body, to solve the issue. Even if we remove gender from the issue the conversation is basically: We don't have the leadership to meet the YPT requirements so we're going to bring in a complete stranger from the other side of the council. Nobody knows him/her but that's ok, they took the online training. Gotta say, I wouldn't sign my kid up for that solution.

I think our program is failing our adults if they don’t know how to welcome Scouts to their campsite. Is there something else to this?

But do they count as official uniform socks with the Centennial uniform? What do you mean grandparents? I remember those socks fondly and I'm only 40. The socks that mine Scouts grandfather or we're green used garters and had red or green tabs.

I’m not involved in GSUSA, and this thread isn’t in the GSUSA forum. I don’t concern myself with how they run that program. They made a decision that’s best for their organization, and that’s their business. I *am* involved in the BSA, which is adopting a unified program offering what purports to be equal program and opportunities to members who are girls and members who are boys. Allowing one troop or CO to unilaterally block off program opportunities for another troop or CO is just flatly unfair. I would have the same issue if girls’ troops were blocking boys’ troops from attending.

Most of the commentary seems to be on the wisdom or stupidity of the extension- but mostly how it affects an individual Scout. Either way, it does provide potentially a strong program gain. The new troops starting up will have a much better chance of success if they have a few "senior" girls in them. Always tough for leadership development when a new troop is formed from a den of Webelos. To get those girls, there would be opportunity particularly with current Venturers. While not every 17 year old girl will want to work towards Eagle, it does make sense that some of them would- and the t

But seriously folks, when Judge Roy Moore put up his (unconstitutional) public monument of the Ten Commandments, the monument had 11 commandments. See https://tinyurl.com/y9oakh38 It all depends on how you parse the first few. And if I have this correct, Orthodox Jews find 613 (I think) commandments in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, not just 10 or 11. A couple hundred of them only apply when there is a main Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, which there hasn't been for awhile, but there are people who do follow all ~ 400 that remain.

As far as I know, every lawsuit againt the BSA regarding membership policies has either been won by the BSA or settled in such a way that the membership policy was not changed until the BSA later decided to change - with one exception. That exception is the complaint brought in the New Jersey Division of Civil Right on behalf of the 8-year-old trans boy who was denied membership in the Cub Scouts because his birth certificate says he is a girl. The BSA basically caved... they changed the policy and I believe they even paid some money to the kid's family. The BSA did not have to cave, they c

My troop and I have never had any problems with girls running around our summer camp, I do not foresee any problems with girls at the camp in the future. All our camp problems have caused by ADULTS. . . . last year we had a young adult male staffer show up in our camp most days at noon, eat our food, play music on his iphone as loud as possible and then play video games on his switch and complain about how life sucks. . . it was not much fun when he showed up. Last year I ended up walking behind a group of young girls at camp talking to one another, one said to the ot

I'm saying many theists don't believe other theists have a lock on morality and its origin. It's a divided house.

Here's a question for you: Do you think you are doing your duty to God by rarely attending church? That said, use your parents for that reference. IMHO, at your age, parents are in charge of your religious education, etc.

Unfortunately, it's one of those situations that does pop up in troops. They do have the right to suspend the scout for a length of time. And even though the spirit of scouting says they should be working with the family and the scout on finding ways to mitigate the unwanted behavior, there's nothing out there that is going to make them willing or enthusiastic about it. Your concerns about how the troop's adults are going to continue to support your son are real and valid. The only thing you really can do is to wait out the suspension. However, you should even without your son's blessing

UPDATE The question I posted on the supply website has been answered and the response is ... interesting, to say the least. From the webpage: https://www.scoutshop.org/thorlo-sock.html?utm_source=scoutshop&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=ClassicSocks So ... apparently the BSA "doesn't have an 'official' sock." So I don't know what all those official uniform socks are, but I guess they aren't "official!" But these are approved for wear with the centennial uniform. So that's ... baffling.

I'd definitely get the pack leadership & COR & perhaps church leadership involved here. I agree to with @qwaze - start running through the list of other Scouting groups that might be able to help. You are trying to do the right thing here by making it possible for her to participate as an equal member. I'm not going to continue to beat the drum of cancel. But, some food for thought from my travels. Because we always want to provide our Scouts the best experience possible, we often perceive things as worse than they are. Yes, it's camporee - but you don't have to g

Yes - the last part (about the new normal) was sarcasm. It was late here and that completely wasn't obvious. I agree with @Eagle94-A1 that the BSA should have allowed adults of whatever gender take Scouts of whatever gender camping. It's ridiculous that in this day and age they added such an old school rule. They missed a golden opportunity to be a leader here. But, due to the rules we have now, I was serious about canceling. The quickest way to start making girls feel like less welcome members is to have the boys go on a trip but say the girls cannot because you don't have a

Agreed - see if her parent can get registered. Pay for the registration for her. But, if not and you can't find one - cancel the campout. A troop camps together. If you don't have sufficient adults for a troop member to go (even a prospective troop member), you don't go. It's not her fault, it's the fault of the adults in the troop. Welcome to the new normal.