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  1. @Mich08212, now that you bring it up, I won't pardon your language. Let's keep it scout appropriate. Thank you, The moderator team.
    5 points
  2. I can't believe I just read all eight pages of this thread. It seems clear that some members of the troop committee do not believe your son was qualified for Eagle even though he passed his EBOR. It was mentioned that a member of the EBOR panel also had reservations but passed him anyway (or did I get that wrong). Perhaps these reservations are related to the physical limitations of your son or other factors that affected his participation. Perhaps quality was missing from efforts made at the last minute. From the bullying comments, it seems some resentment toward your son and/or your fam
    4 points
  3. Hi @Mich08212, I'm a Troop Committee Chair and have been for a while. Why not just go to the next committee meeting and ask what's up? They are all generally public meetings. If someone came to ours and had a question like this, we'd take the time to answer.
    3 points
  4. Well the final hole is: If you reported the YP violation to Council, and got no results, WHY did you keep subjecting your son (and yourself) to the bully for years? Tell the SM...and the SE in a firm letter exactly why you are leaving and find a new Troop that follows the Scout Oath, Law and YP requirements. I dunno...something doesn't smell right.
    2 points
  5. The Scout is an Eagle...the EBOR was convened and he passed. His application was approved by the SM, the Troop Committee Chair, District, Council and National and he has his certificate and medal in hand. All this pontificating about a "valid" EBOR is moot. The only remaining question is why the jerks on the Troop Committee and SM are denying him a Court of Honor.
    2 points
  6. If you need advice on how to write a letter, you can find that any number of places online. There is no official Scout letter template. Is it a ceremony? A party? It can be either, whatever the Scout wants. I apologized in advance if my questions seemed aggressive. I’m pretty close to walking that back. What you describe sounds like a toxic troop situation, but your language and approach are not helping things. Consider the way you have presented things here; if someone brought these complaints to you in this manner, claiming discrimination and insulting various people you volunteer with,
    2 points
  7. Well, no, it doesn’t answer all my questions. But that’s OK. In your answer you’ve insulted a committee member, made excuses for your son (he’s too thin to do physical activity???), brushed off someones battle with cancer, and said you had to take over his Eagle workbook. It sounds like your son and his Troop had come to a mutually toxic relationship. Better to do an ECOH on your own and move on to the next chapter. I can’t imagine how this could end in a way that satisfies all parties.
    2 points
  8. There are always at least two sides to every story. The argument from Mich08212 is compelling, but I wonder what the Scoutmaster's version might be. We had a Scout who was approaching his 18th birthday when suddenly he reappeared on the scene after years of inactivity in the troop. He had missed the deadline for his Life Scout board of review (it needed to be 6 months before his birthday). "Sorry fella - tough break", but he submitted an appeal to the council stating that he had been sick (he wasn't). The council approved his appeal. He then started asking the troop to schedule special ca
    1 point
  9. I think the important question is how to move forward. Assuming that he does have the certificate and card, then questioning the eagle process doesn’t really get us anywhere, though it might help explain both the discrimination and the committee chair’s antagonism. Moving forward the question is really if it’s worth it to continue fighting the troop for an ECoH vs just running it yourself. Stuff like nice letters from politicians is cool, but certainly not nessisary. Returning money to the charity I would have thought would have been the last step in the eagle project, rather than a COH
    1 point
  10. I seem to get involved in just about everything.
    1 point
  11. With an aged out scout, its kinda hard to implement this advice though.
    1 point
  12. OK, I have to say this. You say you were a volunteer in Cub Scouts for 7 years. Thank you for serving. No doubt you took the required Youth Protection training which addresses the BSA's zero tolerance policy on bullying. You also assert that your son was constantly bullied by adults in his Troop the entire time he was a member. Did YOU report this to the Scout Executive as required by the YP requirements? If not, why not? The BSA has procedures in place for handling bullies and it should have been nipped in the bud. I'm not trying to cast accusations...just trying to close some holes in
    1 point
  13. @Mich08212, I haven't read all the pages of this thread so please excuse me if I'm missing something. But a fair number of people have brought up the possibility that your son did not really have a BOR because it was past the 90 day limit past his 18th birthday and you haven't responded. I suspect you don't understand the process. If he really did have a BOR he should have gone through the following process. Filled out an eagle application that was signed by his SM at his eagle SM conference. From there it should have been given to the council registrar who would have checked that it is was al
    1 point
  14. Mich, I’m also sorry this is causing you such stress. However, you’ve become very aggressive in response to fairly reasonable questions— "name calling and unscoutlike" (edit - RS) for example. I have to say that the more you post, the more I believe that the reason for the bad blood between your son and the troop may be related to your manner of handling conflict. I don’t want to get into the holes that remain in your story— I’m pretty smart too 😉 and I can figure out the gist of it at this point. Best of luck to your son as he moves through college.
    1 point
  15. It’s very hard to give guidance to the OP because they are so unclear. The entire story has more questions than answers. Almost eighteen year old earns Eagle. Ok, got it. EBOR is delayed well past the thirty day mark. Was that approved by national? Is this kid really an Eagle? Kid is at home, but doesn’t reach out about a COH till summer. Why? Troop has held other Eagle COH in this time. Did the kid attend? Why wasn’t his included with the others? Scoutmaster says council has denied the COH. That’s not councils role. Was the SM lying? Did the kid misunderstand? Something el
    1 point
  16. The OP is seeking guidance. Pretty sure she's not looking for pettiness or your judgment
    1 point
  17. So I have to ask this. Apologies in advance if it comes across as overly aggressive. Is this your CoH? Or is it your son’s? What does your son want? Why is your son not taking the lead in organizing it, if a CoH is what he wants? What is your motivation in pursuing this and seeking to force the troop to do something? Are you driven by what your son truly wants, or by your own desire to avenge a perceived insult to your child and family by the troop? Why does your son not reach out to his friends and former patrolmates for their addresses and contacts for the invit
    1 point
  18. Just completed our trek. 4 days, 26 miles. Very challenging terrain.
    1 point
  19. Regarding shoes on the boat. We saw zero shoes allowed on the boats when we were there. only time we needed shoes was when we were on land.
    1 point
  20. Check out this page: http://usscouts.org/eagle/eaglecongrats.asp
    1 point
  21. I enjoyed CBG from 1962 -1967. It helped shape my life as an eagle scout and OA, brotherhood recepient. The calling out at the firebowl was a wonderful memory which is seared in my memory. I enjoyed scouting with Troop 1 and Troop 81 in North Aurora, and would go to Hoke's bait shop on the west side of the North Aurora dam and they would let us use a net to get crawdads which they paid us a penny a crawdad. That and selling golf balls at Fox valley country club from the cornfield on hole 3 paid my 24 dollar week camping fee. Three times I spent back to back weeks, and I fell in love with
    1 point
  22. We'll make sure to have a watch up all night to make sure nobody sleepwalks into the sea due to an unfamiliar sleeping pad.
    -1 points
  23. Bearess, I don't disagree with you at all about most of what you shared. Yes, there are a lot of gaping holes and inconsistencies to this and it does appear (based on what's been shared and the apparent timeline) that the scout's EBOR was held after his 18th birthday...raising question as to whether or not he did actually earn the rank. All of that said though, I thought the response that I responded to was extremely condescending and mean spirited...I mean, seriously, how can anyone say ..."have some burgers and move on with your lives"...completely uncalled for
    -1 points
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