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I am surprised that someone has not started complaining about Pedro anyway, since he is, after all, most likely a Democrat.😁

I think it would be far more instructive if there were three parts to the requirement. a. Explain the role and importance of the Father in the family. b. Explain the role and importance of the Mother in the family. c.Explain how they are different, and how both together contribute to building stronger family ties. Whether the Scout is a boy or a girl, from a healthy family or a broken home, these questions are important, and will help develop stronger families in the future as the Scouts learn to understand the vital nature of each parental role in their families, whether p

It's not "outrage", outrage is reserved for Hamas terrorists killing Jews. This is anger, but not because of a name change. CSE Michael Saurbaugh repeatedly stated the BSA respects and believes in the differences between boys and girls and will stand by the benefits of single-gender to reach those unique differences... and then purposefully and with intent they do the exact opposite. It's called lying, and what amazes me most is how easily some so willing accept the lying as something that's a-ok. I often wonder what other points of the Scout law are so nonchalantly disregarded in some of

(I have no way of knowing if this message will be posted) Sunday, May 27, 2018 It is with extreme regret that I after 3,600 posts and 6 years I am ended my association with Scouter.com because I disagree with the recent heavy handedness of the Moderators. I have recently been disciplined and my content erased for an unknown specific issue both Kafkaesque and Orwellian. To all the folks I have met over the years and agreed/disagreed with thank you. The discussions here greatly aided my ‘work’ as a scout leader and was personally rewarding. I have personally met a few folks passing throu

OK, I worked my 1st Cub Scout Day Camp. I handled the Leather Craft table. (See my other posts if you are interested in leatherworking and scouts). I have a lot of unique experience with kids since my mom ran a daycare from our home while I was growing up. We helped out when needed and I treated the (12) kids like little brothers and sisters. It was good practice for raising my own kids and many of the kids brought their own kids later in life when my mom opened a larger center with 125 kids. I've done some leatherworking with girl scout and boy scout troops but It's been a long

I’m not completely sure what you want here. It sounds like your boyfriend is free to come to activities, but he has to stay with you— is that right? He’s not banned. It sounds like he planned to go to the event with you for the day and then bring the younger children home for the night. The Cubmaster’s request didn’t make this impossible. I’m sure it was embarrassing— it’s hard to be reminded that he’s still a subject of gossip. But by then refusing to attend when conditions were placed on him, he also contributed to the outcome. You say his son will be a Lion next year— how much better

I'm taking my boys and some troop mates orienteering today! it's some First Class stuff.

I've been thinking a lot about this over the past few days. I do indeed see things differently, though not in the ways many seem to think. I know this may not be the thread for this, but it is in response to a comment made in this thread, so I knew not where else to post it - moderators may remove it to a more appropriate thread without objection from me if that better serves the integrity of this topic. First of all, people are trying to "sequence" events, trying to determine which came first - a church move to exit Scouting, or incoming policy changes which the church found object

This forum being what it is, I feel compelled to say that the following is sarcasm: Sure, the next movie is going to have no female characters, just men. And no alien males either, because in the current political climate who wants to see them, so all human men. Unfortunately I'm not quite sure which human men are still alive, except the ex-stormtrooper and what's-his-name, Rey's new boyfriend, and maybe Lando. And whatever happened to Wedge Antilles. (Sorry, my "peak" as a Star Wars fan was sometime around the release of Episode VI, and I'm talking about the version with the force-gh

Where are there mixed troops now? So we should call our CSE a liar because at the local unit level some people are going against the design of the program as it pertains to gender?

That is an excellent question. I think you are asking if the Chartered Organization can over-rule the unit leaders. Yes, it can.

We have mixed dens now, we have mixed troops now. not some where in the future, not in a few years, now. Only a few but no one doubts that there are going to be more and more of them until they are the norm. If you really think that our CEO will be surprised by this, I have a bridge to sell you. No checks please, cash and in small bills

I've just read through this entire thread and I think my problem with this whole issue is your focus on your boyfriend being singled out. If your CM, Committee, or CO don't know about other possible felons attending activities, we don't know how they would react if they did know. But based on how this has been handled so far, I suspect those other folks would endure similar scrutiny. Regardless, I would suggest just accepting things as they are and not pushing the matter. Even when his son is a Lion, there is no guarantee of accepting him as a participant. Your CO has the right to exclud

" Let's eat granma !" "Let's eat, (comma) granma !" Boys' life,,,, Boy's Life Scout Life , , , , Scouts' Life , , , Scout's Life , , , When the first Scout Handbook (" Scouting for Boys" was it?) was published by Mr. Baden-Powell, why did the idea take off? Why did boys (and girls don't forget ! ) flock to the idea of an organization that encouraged, taught, idealized woodsy skills, self reliance, patriotism, world brotherhood (sisterhood?) . . . a hundred plus years ago, if B-P hadn't told his wife that she could start a female equivalent,

OK, but I'm curious as to what specifics put you off? To lead you a bit if TSA were to say they like the look of BSA and are going to remodel on you I can think of things that I think would work and would be an improvement and things I don't think would work. Things I'd welcome Your uniforms. (with the exception of the badge sash) Your shirts look much better than ours. Particularly the blue one for cubs. Bigger emphasis on the patrol system, would like to see it used more in the explorer section in particular Things I'd not welcome. Combining scouts and explorers

Wait ... what? You are comapring to utterly different things; I can see which dots you are trying to connect, but you are ending up with the wrong picture and forcing some ideas that I do not believe a relevant. For you to claim that Solo is seeing less success (mind you, it's nothing near a flop - it's still making millions, just not as many as other Star Wars films) - because movie-goers are "voting with their wallets" "not to support Disney and Ms. Kennedy's progressive take on the Star Wars universe" I would find laughable if it wasn't so erroneous. I still don't know where fans are gettin

I have no problem with using the word "parent", it certainly is not "trash". Why such an unkind comment? Maybe this thread has run its course?

I agree with you that it shouldn't even be a merit badge, but single parent family is irrelevant. I stand by my point, change the words to be "find out what it means to be an effective father from a loved one such as your father, uncle, grandfather, etc if you're a boy and what it means to be an effective mother from a loved one such as your mother, aunt, grandmother, etc if you're a girl" The point of the requirement is to teach the boy how to grow up to be a good father and to teach the girl how to grow up to be a good mother. And unless you were saying the requirement was unk

I fell in love with tech shirts a few years back. (and my troop moved to them for their class B.) And I love having the long sleeve tech shirts for sun protection and for an added layer in cold weather. I think uniforms are a great thing, but sometimes I feel folks are too hung up on them. I certainly don't endorse where there's a new uniform pieces you have to purchase every time you move up a year through the programs. It's bad enough for the kids who go through those growth spurts. The talk in the other (or is it this?) thread about new neckerchiefs as the cub scouts move up makes my eyes r

What’s a 2WSP? edited - Oooooohh now I get it.

It sounds like there may be a misunderstanding. I would let them regroup and try again. This is called, a learning experience. Kids screw up all the time. Or you can kick him out of the troop, ban his family and curse him for life. I don't know what BSA says about punishing scouts, but if you seek to punish the Scout, I think you may need to check your scope of practice as a Scouter.

I totally agree and nice job. It does take someone that has a real interest in a particular activity to make things really interesting for the scouts. Someone willing to take care of tools and supplies to make sure the next time they are used. Yours is archery and mine is leatherwork. I talked to the person in charge of our local camp and volunteered to come out every morning and either teach or help out with the leatherworking merit badge. He said it was ok and asked if I wanted to do other merit badges. My reply was "No". Not because I can't do basket weaving, I have no interest.

Hi, I'm Desertrat, and I'm an ISP survivor! Wore the infamous red beret. Camping merit badge earned fair and square, but had the non-required border color. Earned the mandatory amount of skill awards to progress, only eight if I recall, but dang they were noisy. Scout handbook had little outdoor material. Written on a third grade level. Eagle in 77. The old time scouters guided us through the valley of the shadow of the ISP. Sure, we wore funky threads, endured bad literature from National, but we got the old program.

By gad, sir, you are a wonder. Every so often, somebody sees a problem and actually solves it. My Scout Hat off to you . Many Scout Leaders will be grateful, but they may not even know for what. But you will know. Some years ago, I was an active Archery Range Safety Officer for CSDC. We held camp in the same locale many years, and others did too. I taught my Scout Assistants to "Walk The Range", in both directions, to retrieve arrows and check conditions. I mention this to set the stage for my story. One year, as we set things up, I opened up the supplies that Council had

Sorry, I am trying to upload photos and had a problem. There are still additional items that need to be purchased. But our council does not want to spend the money or they don't have the money, or didn't budget for it. Whatever. I can only do my part. I could get the rest of what I need for around $750.00. That would include 2 extras of each alphabet/number set to replace missing letters and numbers that occasionally happen. I'll try to get some photos of the completed bins when I finish them. Let me know what you think. Dale Here is the pile of too

I didn't bother with the Tiger buckle - went straight to the Cub one. I agree on the slides as well. I'm looking at making woggles out of paracord this summer for my Pack. Plenty of color options if you want to customize them.

Agreed on the cost. We, the pack, hand down neckerchiefs den by den. The pack buys extras when needed but for the most part we already have enough inventory. We don’t use hats or worry about specific belt buckles. We use jeans for pants as the Cubscout pants are made for giants. When our dens advance we perform a neckerchief ceremony... which is pretty simple. Our Tigers take off their necker and place it on the Lions... and that continues. So far we are sticking with the yellow wolf neckerchiefs but we will probably change this fall when Lions have yellow neckerchiefs.

Issue is with large packs. I have 80 Scouts and would like to direct them to their den line for various reasons. Neckerchief color is a great way to quickly and easily see a “lost” scout.

And I agree that they should change the neckerchief to red to match the traditional/current color of the patch. Today is confusing for some parents ... I have had some question the yellow neckerchief color. I was never a fan of the Wolf mix of colors (yellow hat/necker but red patch). Today we have Lions Yellow Patch, No Necker Tigers Orange Patch, Orange Necker Wolves Red Patch, Yellow Necker Bears Blue Patch, Blue Necker Webelos Tan/Blue Patch, Plaid Necker w/Webelos Logo Future we will have: Lions Yellow Patch, Yellow Necker

This sounds about like what I would expect. BSA attempts to conform to liberal social values will not halt membership declines. Activists will always have another ax to grind. Any gains from liberal/progressive families (who generally have fewer kids) will not be enough to replace the losses from conservative/traditionalist families who quit the movement. May I suggest that this tangent discussion belongs over in the Issues and Politics section?

His LDS granddaughter could always be a Scout. It's called Girl Scouts USA. Yes - interesting. Not every LDS Scouter thinks as I do. Not every non-LDS Scouter thinks as you do.

I don't think it's foolish at all. Pretty smart, actually. Wolves have been the only rank that has the primary "brand" colors of Cub Scouts as their rank colors. Now we have blue and gold as the overall Cub Scout colors, and we distinguish all ranks individually with their own unique colors. Wolves now have a rank color that is truly unique to them, they're not sharing colors with the whole pack.

The neckerchief (and the whole uniform for that matter, but that's another topic) seems to be in kind of a weird place in Scouting history right now. Today it's smaller and less useful than ever, and frankly I think in some cases it looks silly. I saw a photo of some scouts in uniform recently and their neckerchiefs didn't even come halfway down the front of the shirt. I wish US scouts wore the neckerchief more often and especially when out of uniform, but that doesn't even seem practical when the neckers are so small.

I can sympathize with your situation. I can also understand why you and he want to be active in this aspect of your scout's life. But, let's keep in mind that scouting is not for us. It isn't for the adults or the parents or our close loved-ones. It is for the kids and there may be, and will be circumstances where we do things for the kids that may either disadvantage the adults or otherwise not be in the adults best interests. If you and your boyfriend feel this strongly about him being an attending adult in activities then I encourage you to do two things. 1. Have him register

The major point here for me (setting aside the criminal record for a moment) is that this is your boyfriend. He is not a parent, step-parent, legal guardian, or registered adult leader. For this reason alone he should not attend a cub function unless invited by the cubmaster and only within his /her parameters. I think you might be focusing too much on the criminal record piece and missing this important facet.

The judge didn't think so. The newspaper didn't think so. The scout unit didn't think so. I think it is time you wake up and smell the coffee. A felony conviction is not insignificant.

Your boyfriend and son wouldn’t be allowed to share a tent or anything either since he is not a legal family member. It’s really up to the cibmaster and committee since he really has no right to be there since it’s not his son. Not saying it’s right, but saying how I interpret the rules.

Well, this thread's gone bust.

No and yes. The roots of LNT start with the BSA and Bureau of Land Management in the 80's. In the 90's NOLS took over with the US Forest Service. Other government partners joined. Government funding of these education programs was always a problem. which lead to the creation in 1994 of LNT, a non-profit educational program which marketed courses to many groups including the BSA. More details at this link. https://lnt.org/sites/default/files/Leave_No_Trace_History_Paper.pdf

Absolutely not. Living in a large manufacturing area, we get families with parents in engineering, design, and computer programming from all over the word that come and work in the States for a few years before returning to their home country.

You don't.

I would tell the Scouts they have the option of saying what they want there, within reason obviously. This also raises the question of why "As an American" is in there at all. The Scout Oath and Law do not specify what the speaker's nationality is. One should respect the outdoors not because one is an American, but because one is a human being.

@Eagle1993 Planning? That mainly consists of cutting noodles and buying supplies. We already have a gutter raceway built. Two 15 ft lengths sealed on the ends, mounted on a frame. They sit on sawhorses. Day of? I allow 2-3 hrs for the event. A come and go affair. We also set up our air rocket launchers for additional fun. It's more of a mixer than a competition. Returning Scouts reconnect, new Scouts and families see our group and get an intro to our Pack.

Our Pack had instituted RR as some summertime event where boys got the balsa wood kit the day of the event and went at it right there and then. By the time we got around, it was usually 4-6 boys participating. If you even knew it was happening. Very dispiriting. I changed it to the first Pack-wide event after recruiting was done. A way for new and old to meet and introduce people. But the kits were problematic. So we did away with them. Donated pool noodles cut in half length wise, approx 10" long serve as hulls. Bendy Straws and foam sheets are masts and sails. Pencils and dowels make th

Well those are 1984-85 prices. You are gonna need a Delorean.

Not a uniform item... We moved in the late 70's and in the rafters of the basement of our new house were two things. A 4-ft tall wooden obelisk with hand-carved and painted merit badge emblems and names of the patrol members that made it in the 1930's. It had about 30 years of dust on it. It happened that one of those names was the current SM of the troop I was joining. I brought it to my first meeting and it stayed in a place of honor in the Scout room thereafter. His shock at seeing it again was priceless. I can only imagine the effort it took to make it. Truly wonderful. The

I carry the Scout camp knife I had as a Scout. The only time I don't have it with me is when I am at airports since 9/11. My service stars from my scout days are still on my uniform today. The State strip from my scout historic uniform is the same one I had as a kid, I have changed out the community strip however. The pup tent I used as a scout is now used as a ground cloth to protect the floor of my tent or serve as a floor to my current military pup tent. My scout handbook is still on the shelf on my den.

I enjoy the vintage versions of things as well. I picked up a 1970's version of the SM leaders patch. Hopefully, a previous SM left some luck in it. While not something to wear, I picked up the 1938 version of the Handbook for Scoutmasters. I've been looking for the red wool jacket lately. Sadly, no stories behind them, just cool old things.

It may not be me wearing them, but my boys are wearing my Cub scout neckers and my webelos colors from when i was a kid.