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  1. Boy did I ever derail this thread. Back on topic, my daughter earned her Bobcat last night.
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  2. The thing is, that kind of natural separation is entirely normal at that age. It's simply the way most pre-teen kids think, and so it would be unhealthy to force any legitimately co-ed program on these ages. That's why I hope National is true to it's word and creates a separate program for girls that steers as far away from the boys program as is possibly. No girl/boy patrols, no sharing troops - a total separation of boys and girls in their own programs, even if the girls are working on the same requirements. As far apart as they can be is best for these ages, developmentally speaking.
    3 points
  3. I was thinking about these places and to the topic of this thread.... these are too perfect really. If I could brainstorm up the "perfect place", I'd think it might be something more rustic A place where the scouts would have their own key, well at least the Patrol Leaders.... so they can have it as a proper club house, patrol meetings on their own, etc... Maybe like a barn or rustic cabin close to where the scouts live but not "too city" with an outdoor area with a flagpole and fire ring, etc...where camping could be done...like for instance with visiting WEBELOS
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  4. lol home repairs MB....hahaha. This place was dang near condemned. Contractors made these repairs per permit. Sure we can teach some of the basics here but this house got completely gutted from the basement to the roof.
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  5. Thanks for the Reply. My son is very active in the O/A and has already seen the hard work that is involved in this position. I am glad that he took on these positions to keep him active in the troop. There was a point that he was considering leaving the Troop and Venture Crew (He is active in both). He ran for Senior Patrol Leader 4-5 years in a row but was never elected and only last year was he selected as Assistant Senior Patrol Leader. In our troop the scouts can be elected for multiple terms as SPL which doesn't allow other eager scouts to have the
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  6. Never thought of it like that before. Maybe that is why we are having so many problems with helicopter parents: THEY cannot cope with their child's absence. (caps for emphasis).
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  7. It can be done either way. If the Treasurer prefers to get the full amount of the receipts from a fundraiser then wants to reimburse expenses (for the fundraiser or for a separate expense) because it makes the books look cleaner, then support that. If the Treasurer is fine with people deducting expenses from receipts before handing them in, then support that. Lesson learned move on. No need to turn this in to a cold war. That being said, there is something that needs to be done. A Den Leader cannot hold another office in the Pack. If your current Treasurer is also a Den Leader then
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  8. Webelos, but of course she has to earn her Bobcat before she can do anything else.
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  9. The troop policy is basically that tents are private safe areas so long as the scouts aren't disrupting the sleep of those around them. I didn't realize how much the scouts took that to heart until a back packing trip where I was forced to listen to some teenager discussions in a language they were more accustomed to using at school. I told them the next morning during breakfast that while the tent is a safe place to have private discussions, it's not sound proof. Barry
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  10. This "long-leash" principle is pretty common. We need to remind ourselves that we're dealing with an age range of 10.5 - 18. Moreover, the age of our parents is even wider. That's a lot different than most schools and sports leagues. When our school board decided to consolidate middle and high school kids into the same building, there was a huge outcry from parents of elementary school kids. I had had a positive experience when my 8th grade was moved to my high school, but I was less perturbed. Some of my teachers were brought up in one-room-schools (the old buildings were historic landmarks .
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  11. Funny part is at Philmont to lessen impact we all camped right together. That was different. Each adult had their own tent, but it was different being 3 yards from scouts as opposed to out of site. They were annoyed by the snoring but that was just a bonus
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  12. These inspirational articles always bring me back to the one that I think may have "started it all" . . . This is always re-quoted in what some may see as "politically correct", but I still like the original: Within My PowerBy Forest E. Witcraft (1894 - 1967), a scholar, teacher, and Boy Scout Executive and first published in the October 1950 issue of Scouting magazine.I am not a Very Important Man, as importance is commonly rated. I do not have great wealth, control a big business, or occupy a position of great honor or authority.Yet I may someday mold destiny. For it is within my power
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  13. No, but only had around 3-4 CITs, forgot to include them. They are kinda volunteers too.
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  14. My family has 3 generations of Eagles - My Dad, myself and twin brother and one of my sons. I don't have any grandkids yet but my brother has a granddaughter so maybe she will the 4th generation.
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  15. If I read this right, the dad this earning Eagle is good for him. I'm going to infer that the dad has latched onto the college application argument to motivate his son. It appears to have had a little success, but not a lot. If I'm right, you and the dad are walking a fine line. Push the boy too much and he gives up. I think you support the boy here. Will he get more out of Scouting if he gives up, or if he even puts a tiny effor?
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  16. I want to echo others here. You get one Eagle project - don't rush it. Give yourself time to enjoy it and do a fantastic job. Your schedule sounds too aggressive for you to get a lot out of it.
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  17. Very true, this side of the pond the necker is very much what says "scout". Typically on camp we don't wear full uniform except for formal moments except for the necker which we normally wear all the time. Typically worn over the collar (if what we're wearing has a collar) but I don't think we have a specific rule about it. Nearest we have is that the official badge positioning diagrams show it as over.
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  18. I'm a third generation Eagle Scout (1977) , behind my father and his father. My son is a Webelos Scout presently and may choose to do the same. My dad and grandfather were in the NESA database but not myself until I submitted documentation. The photos is from 1949 Buffalo Area Council Court of Honor, Buffalo NY. It was noted in the newspaper article that accompanied this photo, that a second generation was very uncommon in he council, as well as being a 14 year old Eagle.....youngest on record in that council at that time
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  19. Personally, I think a lot of packs could stand to tone down their "elaborate events" - they become almost like wedding receptions what with all the pomp and money thrown into them. I think that learning to simplify things and creating a more modest approach to rank advancement at the Cub level is an important lesson for many packs. Yes, we should be celebrating achievement and advancement - I always do with my den - but it should be to a degree that's appropriate to their age and accomplishment. The grand advancement ceremonies and Blue and Gold banquets with the huge costs and extravagant dec
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  20. That’s a good one. National does not care what I or anyone else thinks about this topic. Why would they suddenly start now? They will ram through whatever stupid decision they come up with, and then claim everyone is asking for this and they are just responding to popular demand. They will lie and manipulate as they always have.
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  21. What do you call the Law School graduate with the lowest GPA? Your Honor.
    1 point
  22. ""What do you call the Medical School Graduate with the lowest GPA? == Doctor""
    1 point
  23. Who is the instigator? Is the boy afraid to be without the dad? Or is dad afraid to let the boy go? Frankly, our rule is we just don't allow it, it is not healthy for the boy (or the adult). However, now and then we have a youth that just cannot function, so we work with them. But it is really a very very rare REAL problem. It is mostly a discomfort that is quickly overcome by sticking to the "rules". A conversation (likely several) about where the fear comes from will often fix the issue. EDIT: Oh, 100 yards is a suggestion, but a great one. It is usually easy to do if you ar
    1 point
  24. In theory, that option will not exist for Girl Patrols in Boy Scout Troops. It is an option for Girl Dens in Cub Scout Packs.
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  25. Freds right, if the scout has done what is required of him, anything else is adding requirements. Now I'm not preaching about the goods and evils of adding requirements, I personally think there are times and places for everything when it comes to growth. But, I have observed and experienced similar situations like this one and if push comes to shove all the way up the ladder to National, the scout wins every time. Actually this situation is very common with new scoutmasters because they tend to get emotionally tied up in old business trying to set their new standards on the troop progr
    1 point
  26. We do not allow that. The boy would have to sleep in a tent with a buddy. We would allow Mom or Dad to be in visible line of sight of each other and make frequent checks but under no circumstance (unless the boy was VERY disabled) would let the camels nose under that tent. By the 2nd or 3rd campout it is not an issue in just about every case the boys shoos his parents check ups away. We strongly encourage the Webelos visiting boys to sleep in boy-only tents even if the tent is 6" away from mom and dad. That helps expectations. I think the almost complete abscense of any camping at the Cub
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  27. First of all, thank you for stepping up to serve the youth. What I see missing here is TRAINING. Everyone needs to get Basic and Position Specific training for their respective positions ASAP. The Pack Committee (including Treasurer) works for the Committee Chair (CC). The Cubmaster ("Pack Master") recruits and leads the efforts of the Den Leaders. Everyone serves at the pleasure of the Chartered Organization (CO), normally delegated to the Chartered Organization Representative (COR). While this incident may not itself be a "big deal", a set of groundrules needs to be put in place as to
    1 point
  28. Welcome! And thanks for all that you do for the youth. I used to pull stuff like this on my crew treasurer all the time. It really irritated her. Oddly, what didn't irritate her was when I left her in pitch dark in a cavern. (To my credit, I came back as soon as I realized I had misplaced her.) Tell your WDL: respect whoever's doing the work. Treasury issue, treasurer's rules. If it keeps pack $ safe, support it. Have the CC doc 5% from his end-of-year bonus. Tell your treasurer: it's scary being left in pitch dark in a cavern. If she actually deposited the funds, she is compli
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  30. The NRA a terrorist organization? Seriously??? I missed that comment. LOL ....about as much as the BSA in my estimation.
    1 point
  31. Alien families have clearly spoken and they are the future of Scouting. 87 percent of alien families would join Scouting if given the chance (in separate Dens, of course).
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  32. Are you kidding? I'm keeping the BSA4G patrol 200 yards distant uphill! But, seriously, your troop shouldn't be forced to change its culture, and I think it's on your CO to defend that. However, as with other new-troop start-ups some of your best boys should be called upon to help train the neighborhood's BSA4G troop -- should the need arise. I find that a little sharing of ideals is the best way to preserve the traditions of the senior unit.
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  33. Not only that but it takes time to generate a new unit. It took me 2-3 weeks of IT hoops and leader training just to add a den in an existing pack. If they want new Troops for girls ready by April 2019 they need to start soft launching this year. That will allow COs to generate the new Troops. Leaders for these troops to be put in place. Bank accounts created. Treasures, CC, SM, ASM all trained. Then what about new equipment? Reservations for meeting locations. There are a ton of activities for a new Troop and I’d expect they’ll need 3-6 months lead time so when the girls join the logis
    1 point
  34. I am starting to suspect you are Trolling and do not have a boy in the program. The way you phrase things is not how a parent of a child says things. If I am wrong I apologize. So WHAT program outside of scouting that is not work related are you involved in? I get it, I have a job and multiple kids...you pick your battles. But maybe I missed it what is yours? I volunteer in Scouts and Band and occasionally church. Most people on this board have similar resumes. I can say the "no" because I have a bigger burning "yes". What is yours?
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