Jump to content

Leaderboard

Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 02/02/18 in all areas

  1. To be fair, the complexity is jumping up on YPT and overnight requirements. I think a BSA sponsored YPT playbook armband should be coming out soon.
    3 points
  2. I think it's the presentation of the story that makes it seem odd. They make it look like these girls are already in the BSA, doing scout stuff and all. But the real story with these particular girls and this leader is that they are going to sign up when they can, which may be later this year or 2019. A better story would have been to go meet some girls who are actually in a Cub Scout pack right now.
    3 points
  3. But, but isn't that what the opposition said would happen and we were assured that there would be policies to keep that sort of thing from happening? Shocked.
    2 points
  4. We had a meeting with parents of some of our new girl members last night. One of the biggest complaints and questions was regarding separate dens. The comments were all similar ... why should any girl join if this won’t be coed, why shouldn’t all girls then simply stay in Girl Scouts. We explained that the Pack would be coed and that seemed like to help a bit. I wonder what families and supporters of GSUSA will think of all Girl Packs. Clearly that doesn’t help families go to one organization in terms of planning their time. I don’t understand how creating a girl Pack is family scouting,
    2 points
  5. I don’t believe so. Every summer camp/camporee required class a at dining hall, ceremonies, etc.
    2 points
  6. Without the uniform they’re missing one of the methods of Scouting. Isn’t that 4H?
    2 points
  7. You are somewhat right... I did receive the email. To be fair this email could have matched the last 7 years of email for this even just change the name of the sender.! No! I did not go to this event this year! But! my responses are not with out merit, I did follow up with others on what I missed at this years meeting ( I have been staple at these in the past ) and I do have well over 12 years as a district and council volunteer serving in several positions. District Vice Chair, Assistant District Commissioner and F.F.O.S. Chair to name a few. If you read my post.. I state m
    1 point
  8. I've seen adopted camp sites at several NC camps, including Raven Knob, Grimes, and Daniel Boone. Some get pretty elaborate, with shelters, power, engineered fire pits, hammock stands, and benches. These camps all have online registration for weekend camping, so it's easy to reserve your favorites.
    1 point
  9. We are a successful troop because we have good program and execute it week in and week out. Also we have and support the feeder packs at the CO who do a good job of providing program to the local area. We are successful because of our experience and what we do. The district and council do little to bother us.
    1 point
  10. Oh, I thought that was a blood pressure cuff for people who like to read constantly.
    1 point
  11. No camp is perfect but they were really good. Was impressed at how loyal the staff was to the camp and how many years some of them have been coming back. Good signs. Were very accommodating to special requests if they were reasonable.
    1 point
  12. I'd not seen the form. That is very specific. Interesting to see all the hoops for and early adopter program that heads things off by 6 months or so. They should've just done it from the start. Take your licks once and be over it.
    1 point
  13. Agreed. It's a forced unneeded and problematic idea. Now if you have enough boys and girls in a rank to keep them separate and they want to do that, fine. Absolutely fine. But if you don't have the numbers and don't have the volunteers, how the heck would you make it work. Forcing it would just diminish the scouting experience.
    1 point
  14. You are lucky, my wife assumes I can read her mind. Barry
    1 point
  15. The moms in my troop do things like order t-shirts and help with fundraising. Their choice has been to leave the outdoorsy stuff up to the male leadership. So, I disagree totally with the idea that men don't get stuff done.
    1 point
  16. I am good friends with a GSUSA leader (and former professional) who was congratulating me on Son#2 getting his Eagle. I mentioned (bragged) a few of his highlights and she asked about what an SPL was which led to a discussion of our Troops (sometimes watered-down) youth led mixed age patrol method. She was shocked, just shocked that we trusted them enough to plan and carry out things on their own and while she could see it would be chaotic it would be much more helpful for leadership development than the GSUSA program. She then told me to quit poaching their girls.
    1 point
  17. It would be better, and there have been some other articles with photos showing girls in Cub Scout uniforms (well, maybe only one article so far) posted in this forum.
    1 point
  18. This came across my news feed. I have no idea about the quality of this publication beyond reading the article (which clear has factual flaws), but I thought it was interesting. https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/01/northern-california-magnet-girls-joining-boy-scouts/ And another article came across right after that. https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/02/01/girls-signing-up-in-droves-to-become-boy-scouts-in-northern-california-were-both-created-equal
    1 point
  19. To be honest, when I read this story and saw they person who created the Pack was a deputy DA I thought.... political move.
    1 point
  20. The council must have kicked off this story as a recruiting message. Drum up some support in prep for launch. Most seem focused on the Cub Scout program when working with the media, not sure why this council led with 1,600 girls ready to join and then got all the media tied in with a fake BSA girl Troop. Seems like this can only cause confusion.
    1 point
  21. Time for a new topic. I had to pick something up from an old scouter today. I was lamenting the drop in participation and said I was reading some old books from Hillcourt that were just dripping with enthusiasm and adventure. So he said he took Woodbadge with Hillcourt being the SM. That started a discussion. I asked him about a syllabus and he told me it was pretty simple. After months of preparation by the staff he showed up the first night and told everyone there would be no flip charts and all the teaching would be outdoors (chuck all the planning). Each patrol had to teach anything t
    1 point
  22. Closed toed shoes is the basic rule for all scouting activities in my Council, even meetings. That said, my boys' troop was a full uniform troop (including socks), and the sandal/BSA green sock look isn't a good one.
    1 point
  23. We have done items like this in the past. Having other leaders and scouts sign it on the back adds a special touch. Plaque ideas
    1 point
  24. I think the terminology is tripping the whole forum up too!
    1 point
  25. Terminology seems to be tripping up the media pretty frequently. I kind of wish the BSA addressed some of the branding considerations before going ahead with this. I didn't think it would matter much, but apparently it does.
    1 point
  26. Yes, they will have to learn ScoutBook. When will it go live? Appears in March some time BUT who knows. The project may get delayed. So I would expect you should train the new person rather than train the person leaving. Planning? I'd train on Internet Advancement now, then everyone will have to train on ScoutBook anyway. The March 1st deadline is for current SB subscribed units. HOWEVER, the rumors out there are that ALL units will be using SB in a "Lite" version shortly there after. Recommendation: Train on Internet Advancement now and make the transition. When SB transit
    1 point
  27. Oh, I agree, which is why I didn't say they wouldn't be offended. But using the cultural appropriation guidebook them being offended is of no consequence. Just in case anyone isn't paying attention to the whole thread. This is all sarcasm.
    1 point
  28. In today's environment, I would never assume that. Someone, somewhere will get offended and make a stink and BSA will back down. That seems to be the process.
    1 point
  29. Thanks for the feedback so far. This is helpful. To provide some more context. I've got no idea what's going to happen with our troop in a year or two. Will we be co-ed, will we be boys only, no idea. I'm not concerned with either outcome as we'll adjust and run the best program we can. When I read the original article, my thought was "yep, makes sense." I've got a son and two daughters. I don't really raise them differently - that all get the same feedback and opportunities from me. I teach my daughters how to use power tools and my bring my son to the ballet. But, I can clearly
    1 point
  30. A local SM retired after 25+ years at the helm. Get got a great picture of Rockwell's "The Scoutmaster" that was framed. Around the border, all the Scouts and parents got to sign special messages to him. Thing was huge (36"x30") and very well done. Nice hardwood rustic frame. Brought the guy to tears. Nice shadow box of patches Scouts donated of various memories over the years was also presented. Total cost was $200 and was paid by parents and Scouts (past and present).
    1 point
  31. Nope. We take from the Saga of Ragnar. You can't offend the North Men. Can't do anything British because we will offend someone eventually.
    1 point
  32. First of all, thank you for the link to that article @Eagledad. I found it well-written, level-headed, and much-needed voice of sense in society's ongoing war against families. As for the idea of Scouting focusing on "leadership training and character development," and those being "gender-neutral" (never one of my favorite terms) -you will find after reading through Scouting's published materials over the years that those have been pushed and emphasized far more now in the past two decades than they ever were before. Yes, they were always a part of it, but you are failing to recognize tha
    1 point
  33. My Dad loved Hogans Hero's , and he spent two years in France and Germany shooting at Nazis. Maybe he used the humor as a way of dealing with the horrors he saw as a young man. I don't know. But each to his own. "Adds a few more sticks of ash under the coffeepot"
    1 point
  34. I wish we could go back to discussing topics that pertain to the nuts and bolts of Scouting. You may have noticed that I continue to post in the Patrol Method section several times each week. In my opinion, Green Bar Bill's legacy needs more focus here and less of the discussion of "issues & politics." This particular I&P sub-forum was initiated, I believe, to keep the divisive language and attitudes out of the other Scouting sub-fora. I tend to stay out of I&P because I'm more interested in hearing about Scouting topics like Patrol Method, Advancement, etc., just as @Eagledad
    1 point
  35. Has any boy of the scout age ever felt they needed more character? Scouting is an adult program designed to develop boys into men of character (A game with a purpose). The attraction for boys is the adventure. The exhilaration of experiencing the independence for making responsible decisions is what keeps them in the program after the exhilaration of adventure becomes balanced with normality. Barry
    1 point
  36. Found this video... Webelos uniforms are changing. New patches. More info on girls. https://vimeo.com/249824630 F@mily4UnitLeaders
    1 point
  37. I have only three rules where adults can jump in and interfere. 1) Safety first (you covered that one) 2) Look and act like a Scout (breaching the Scout Oath and Law) 3) Have fun (deals with homesickness, bullying, boring program, etc.)
    1 point
  38. Absolutely correct. Plus, BSA keeps trying to play both sides of the fence. Sometimes charter orgs own the units. Sometimes BSA acts as if they own the unit. As for now, BSA is inserting itself as if BSA owned the units when it announces cub scout dens have to be single gender and troops have to be single gender. IMHO, the charter org will work around and pretty much ignore BSA on these topics. And, how would BSA know or enforce the issue. ... Pack XXX will have den 9B and den 9G. They meet at same place and have same leaders and same calendar, etc. Troop ### and troop ###+1 wil
    1 point
  39. I disagree. Hugely. People are going to discuss, plan and make decisions. It's 100% natural. It's human nature. I think Stosh has it right in that there is probably much more going on behind the scenes than we can see. BUT this is hardly a surprise. Our local DE knew and hinted in August that there was an imminent announcement. If he knew then, then it was known much longer in advance at national. IMHO, national should have invested in staff well in advance of Oct 11th getting stuff thought through, in-place and ready to be distributed. BSA did not need the final product,
    1 point
  40. Perhaps the national press releases should have been delayed until they have an idea of how it was to be implemented. I just read this thread and learned a whole lot more than what has been communicated to the Scouters by my Council. I have had extensive training in the field of "Risk Communication"...BSA National and local Council Executives need a crash course. In a nutshell...1) identify your stakeholders, 2) communicate early and often, 3) tell the truth, 4) if you don't know, say you don't know., 5) get out ahead of the rumors and quash them.
    1 point
  41. Yeah, well... Another Scouter in my troop foolishly in the spirit of service to the larger Scouting community, volunteered to be on the committee planning a district Cub Scout camping event. He told me that the financial planning for the event includes a fairly healthy profit for the council, and that the importance of this has been emphasized repeatedly. Apparently this is true for every council/district event or program - Cub family camping, Webelos camping, camporees, Klondike Derby, first aid competition, etc. I realize this is the way things work, but it seems a little sleazy to, in
    0 points
  42. Having been a on the Council and District Training committee and done a good deal of training, I can say far, far fewer than I expected.
    0 points
×
×
  • Create New...