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  1. 3 points
    Agree with Sentinel. You have an obligation to report it, but keep it low key, and at the same time tell the DE what you have done to correct it. There was no ill intent, and the rules have been reinforced with all troop leadership. Perhaps have a refresher training class at your next Committee meeting. We, too have done the blanket thing to divide the room...this was at a Council camp in cabins that were built in the 40s. It was no big deal to string a rope across the room and hang tarps.
  2. 2 points
    Fifty-ish years ago we spoke of the "environmental crisis" and most seemed, at least, to admit there were significant issues that needed to be tackled from the ecological standpoint. Most were familiar with Rachel Carson's Silent Spring and Dr. Barry Commoner's Closing Circle, both dealing with the ill effects of anthropogenic, huma-caused, factors. In fact, if you go back and read the Scouting literature of the 1960s and 1970s, you see this concern for bettering the environment spelled out in no uncertain terms. Take, for example, the article below from the December 1969 issue of Scouting. The language was strong and led Scouts to want to do something about the crisis. Richard Nixon, who brought about many federal responses to the betterment of the environment, reached out to the BSA to request a helping hand. Hence the 1971 Conservation Good Turn, later Project SOAR (Save Our Air and Resources). We still have an environmental crisis today yet the language is not as dire in the literature. What happened? Even our beloved Green Bar Bill didn't mince words when he wrote "[t]he voices of warning went unheeded for a long time. But other voices were being heard. Today every intelligent person realizes the importance of conservation" (pg. 323, The Official Boy Scout Handbook, 9th ed. 1979). Surely we can do more in 2018 as far as conservation is concerned. There is still an environmental crisis that needs to be addressed; we didn't fix that with a couple of Earth Day occurrences. So what about a revitalization of the 1971 Conservation Good Turn, our Project SOAR (Save Our Air and Resources)? Would a SOAR 2.0 be a good idea? What are you and your Scouts doing to tackle the issues of clean air and water?
  3. 2 points
    We use one cabin for a winter camp-in that has only one large room, probably holding 50 people. There are no accommodations for separate adult and youth. We do keep the adults in one corner. I can't see a YPT violation since there was no one on one contact, no tent situation. I'd be careful about reporting this and possibly ruining the adult's reputation and future for an innocent situation.
  4. 1 point
    As with ANY course or program, much depends on the instructor, the curriculum, student participation/attention, the class size, how confirming prerequisites are completed, and many other factors. We have all seen well-run courses and some real howlers. The important thing, as an individual, is to do your own research, read and practice. This can make up for a lousy course, instructor or otherwise. As for reality TV, do yourself a favor and don't watch it. Your IQ will drop 10 points with each one you watch. Read a good book or watch something about science or history. If not available, stream Dr. Who on Prime.
  5. 1 point
    One thing to remember about ARC and BSA, there is a lot of collaboration with the 2 organizations. The BSA and ARC lifeguard programs are 95% identical. Only difference is the addition of G2SS policies, which are stricter. When I took BSA Lifeguard in 2016, for an extra $25 or $35 and taking the ARC written test, I could have been dual certified. Heck BSA Lifeguard classroom portion was watching ARC videos. Yes I would have been ticked. I was a certified YMCA Lifeguard, and still needed to work with a Lifesaving MBC to get teh MB.
  6. 1 point
    I think reporting in this case could be more about protecting the leader vs really a concern that something nefarious occurred. As the leaders of this Troop created separate sleeping areas and s leader left the area to sleep with the youth he did open himself up to possible accusations. What if one of the youth accuses him of crawling in his bunk during that night six months from now? Now you have a situation where an adult has clearly been the only adult sleeping in an area with youth. That would be bit of a mess. Hell, if I did this I would send a report to my COR and DE. I’d explain what and why it happened and ask them to fully investigate. They should follow up with the other leaders and youth, see nothing else occurred, have me retrained in YPT, let the parents know and move on. I’d apologize to the scouts and explain YPT and how it protects both l leaders and youth. If I were a scout and the leader was a good guy, I’d be impressed with his sense of accountability and feel YPT is way overly sensitive. It should not be a black mark against his record (unless he repeatedly violates it) and it should show that he treats protecting youth seriously. All of this assumes nothing else happened. Almost no one on this forum know the guy or if he is a pedophile. Pedophiles exist, they aren’t always apparent and the only way to truly protect youth is to strictly enforce YPT. Yes, YPT can be a burden and our society jumps from accusations to guilt immediately; however, too long has BSA and leaders ignored situations that but youth at risk of perverts. If reporting a borderline YPT violation helps ensure consistent and rigorous enforcement and thus Scouts from being assaulted then I’m all for it and any volunteer of youth should be as well.
  7. 1 point
    Hmmm, I have a gal that got fired up about doing a recent service project that she organized a group of elderly ladies, acquired the materials and had everyone pitch in and make lap blankets for all the residents of the local nursing home for Christmas. Sound like an Eagle project? Nope, the gal part gave that away. Did she say she had fun? Nope, not that either. Did she get any credit for it? Nope, but she did put in a public notice of thanks to everyone that helped her. I asked her a couple of Sunday's ago at church coffee fellowship about her "project". She was kinda surprised because she said I was the one that had suggested it. I didn't remember it at all, but it would seem I mentioned it as something the kids in the youth group could do as a service project. They didn't pick up on it as a group and I forgot all about it. She didn't. I had kinda lost track of the kids this fall because I was away on 4 different Disaster Relief Operations for the Red Cross. My curiosity got the best of me finally and I said, if the other kids didn't want to do it, why did she do it anyway. She said that because I do so much for the Red Cross, and Scouts, and Salvation Army, and the Scatter Garden Memorial at the local cemetery, she wanted to know what I knew that she didn't. I asked if she found out. And she said yes. She began a whole litany of things. She felt excited about the project, she made new friends in a group of people 50 years older than her, she learned to use a sewing machine, she was amazed at the generosity of people's donations of fabric and batting for the blankets, and amazed the ladies would stop their regular sewing projects for the church just to help her. Then she said getting to hand out the lap blankets to the residents made her cry. ??? Because the residents were crying when she tucked the blankets in and around some of them. So, where's her Life to Eagle booklet? Didn't do one. Proposal? didn't have one. Plan? Did use one. Advisor/mentor? Didn't get one Signatures? Didn't need any. Did she get any credit for any of this? Not at all. But she did tell me she found out what I know that she didn't know before.
  8. 1 point
    Good News!!! Thanks for the update. One of the many great features in TroopWebHost is that the Scouts can login to their account and see where they are in their own advancement. They can also print a Scouting History Report which gives them a summary of everything they have completed. This has taken some of the work load off of our Advancement Chair.
  9. 1 point
    Besides, let's be honest, camp food often is "situationally good" After a cold night of sleeping in the backcountry, a ziplock bag egg is pretty good. In my house? Heck no. I want an omelet with veggies and meat, preferably sausage. We also have to understand that different programs have different strengths and weaknesses and that does have an impact on Scouts and what skills they retain. A pair of Eagles across the country's inability to cook on a TV show has no bearing on my experiences as a Scout or the value I place on my Eagle.
  10. 1 point
    I think every scout probably has had a part of the program they struggled with or were just weren't as good at, even if they did get through the requirements. I also hope people don't look at the Eagle Scout badge as some sort of confirmation that anyone who wears it is highly proficient in each and every task associated with the rank. Especially many years after those merit badges were earned. It also looks very set up for the reality show. Did they have to cook eggs in a zip-lock bag? They're in a full kitchen. I'm guessing the producers asked them to do some camp cooking and intentionally not take advantage of the tools and equipment around them.
  11. 1 point
    Also keep in mind that this is a "reality show" (or at least it looks like one, I've never seen it) so it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with actual reality.
  12. 1 point
    If the parents push them, they won’t learn or succeed. I have two brothers in my troop (one first class, one almost Eagle.) They have a helicopter mother and will literally do EVERYTHING for her sons. She even does all their school work. She’s doing his Eagle Scout Project, meaning he didn’t demonstrate leadership or anything. My parents haven’t pushed me, told me to do anything (besides to finish my last two merit badges haha). All I have to do is my last two merit badges. I did a meaningful project at a local Adult daycare center, and I found the place myself through my nursing program. I planned it, etc. My parents refused to give me answers (which I’ll thank them for later), when I could find them out. I know I’ll be prepared for life rather than the ones being “babied by their parents”.
  13. 1 point
    Not necessarily. A YPT violation is not a charge of abuse. It does not, in itself, constitute an actionable offense. Scouters have been retained after events like this.
  14. 1 point
    Thread hijacking is not good internet decorum. IT IS SIMILAR TO NOT TYPING IN ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME. It is a consistent and common rule across nearly all forums. I know I violate it from time to time and have no problem when called out. It is simple enough to create a new topic.
  15. 1 point
    Do those crew members want to work toward Eagle? If they do, I'd encourage them to do the same Sydney and see if there is a path for them to do so. For the record, I don't advocate for her being given direct credit for work/requirements done un-officially. I support her being given requirement/rank transfer credit for things done in Scouts Canada officially, same as any boy could potentially receive. I strongly disagree that she was trying to give the BSA a "public relations black eye." Just because you disagree with her viewpoint (one that clearly many in the BSA happen to agree, myself included), publicly voicing that viewpoint doesn't mean she was intentionally trying to harm the BSA. I think she did what we encourage all of our kids to do; Stand up for what you think is right, speak up if you feel something is unjust.
  16. 1 point
    Don't get me started there. There are so many things wrong with G2SS in that regard. But that is a topic for a different thread.
  17. 1 point
    As a youth, I personally believe he did not do anything wrong. - He wasn’t one on one with a scout. - He was in the MAIN room, not a side room (If he napped in there during the day, would that violate it since there are scouts in the MAIN area where he is sleeping?) - Was on ground, not sharing a bunk - Last minute decision (1am, nobodies thinking then) - A cabin isn’t a tent
  18. 1 point
    For over 20 years now, BSA has not asked me to teach anything for the program. I used to teach Fundamentals, both Cub and SM, I used to teach Webelos outdoors, I used to teach at University of Scouting, I am registered but never called for MB counseling, etc. I musta fell out of the Good Ol' Boys' good graces. I have been with the Red Cross for less than 2 years, I am an instructor for Mass Care/Disaster Cycle Services side of the Red Cross, Not the CPR/FA/AED or BioMedial sides, and I am on the schedule to teach Sheltering Fundamentals and Simulation (2 sessions), and Disaster Action Team Fundamentals and Simulation (1 session), over the next 2 months. The teacher's manual for the Sheltering course alone is a ream of paper thick in my 2" loose-leaf binder. Oh, by the way, if one thinks a day at Fundamentals is a pain in the butt. I drive the Emergency Relief Vehicles for the Red Cross. I needed 1) Disaster Cycle Services: An Overview 2) Shelter Fundamentals 3) Basic Food Safety 4) Psychological First Aid 5) Mass Care: An Overview 6) Feeding Fundamentals 7) Bulk Distribution Fundamentals Just to be a Mass Care Volunteer, and then: 1) CPR/FA/AED certification, 2) ERV: Ready, Set, Roll, course (classroom 8 hours), 3) Defensive Driving Course offered by the State, 4) Basic Food Handling, 5) On the road test. Then one needs to be vetted by one's supervisor to be able to drive. The whole process is free. Rationale? You are a volunteer doing very important for people experiencing desperate times in their lives, By the way, I am one of thousands of people who have gone through this process. How serious is BSA with their training when they are sitting there worried about whether or not $5 ought to be charged for lunches or materials? If one wanted CPR/FA/AED training and WFA training (Both ARC classes) as a scout it will cost one $100+, as an ARC volunteer? $0 It's not just ARC, FEMA does the same thing, all their training is free and on-line, I've taken that too.
  19. 1 point
    Just like in the professional world, an employee shouldn't be floored by a poor performance review which seemingly comes from out of the blue. Rather, a supervisor should coach/mentor an employee such that poor reviews aren't necessary. Likewise, a Scoutmaster should coach/mentor the Eagle candidate. I would highly recommend, as I said before, suggesting the Scoutmaster meet with the candidate sooner than later to share his/her concerns. The Eagle candidate shouldn't arrive at the Eagle Board of Review and get blindsided. As a somewhat humorous look into past concerns regarding Eagle candidates, I share with you this letter from the Jan/Feb 1970 issue of Scouting: "At our last Eagle board of review, a candidate appeared who presented unconventional views on life in general--government, education, personal rights, etc. And, although dressed neatly in proper uniform, his hair was of abnormal, almost shoulder, length. After much discussion and probing with this young man, we decided that despite his unconventionality we could not condemn his viewpoint. Most of us found him to be otherwise a well-qualified candidate of fine individual worth. However, we delayed making a decision and asked him to return because we can't agree on the effect his appearance might have on others. We wonder what Scouts and adults will think who see him receiving Scouting's highest honor and yet are not award of his personal qualifications. We have sought outside counsel, and reaction is mixed there too. Many feel the boy's appearance reflects his unacceptable thinking and is bad for Scouting. Many are noncommittal. Right now I don't know what to do. Certainly, this problem has been encountered in other councils throughout the country--and we may encounter it again. Any suggestions?"
  20. 1 point
    How about eliminating he boring parts and replacing it with good training - like if BSA was competing for your time? I have witnesses awful training - and training where the learners didn't want to leave when the sessions were over.
  21. 1 point
    If BSA were to ever get it's act together they could produce a number of training sessions by using videos. The boring classroom parts could all be one for free over the internet and maybe the hands-on parts could meet for half the time at less expense. Participant booklets and reference guides could be printed off over the internet for those that want them People would be more apt to take the training if they could do it for free at a time most convenient to their schedules. That ain't happening now and then there's all the wailing and gnashing of teeth that goes into why people aren't trained. Other organizations are doing this, why is BSA such a Johnny-come-lately? Answer that question and you'll get better results with training of the volunteers.
  22. 1 point
    My take? If the district/council thinks the boy did not complete the requirements (e.g., paperwork missing, the signature of a counselor or project beneficiary is invalid, etc...) they need to ask the scout to rectify those things before going forward. Once everything is in place on paper, start the board, soon. If anything is lacking, suspend the board with instructions in writing for what the scout should do before the board may reconvene.
  23. 1 point
    As it happens I am at Gilwell Park as I type! Massive event called winter camp, big weekend jamboree affair. We come every year it's great fun Gilwell are quite welcoming to visitors, phone in advance and they'll have you there. Be aware that's it's in a transitional phase. A lot of the old buildings are being closed knocked down and replaced. So the famous camp square looks quite run down but is due to be totally rebuilt. Brownsea is indeed run by the National Trust which is a charity that looks after a lot of historic sites. It's open to visitors all year, no need to book advance. There's a passenger ferry from Poole harbour. Very beautiful and the original campsite is still there. Scouts can camp there but need to book years in advance! If you have any problem with wasps be aware it's infested with them. There are plenty of places to camp near Poole and you can do a day trip there. We went for the day in 2015 while camping at a place called Ferny Crofts in 2015. Photos here http://12thcambridge.org.uk/summer-camp-2015/
  24. 1 point
    Week T-1 Update We now have 5 girls interested in joining our Pack. 4 are current GSUSA members and 3 have brothers in the Pack. We have not pushed recruiting at all and do not plan to so I expect our early adopter numbers to be low. So far, 2 Lions, 1 Wolf and 2 Bears. Two of the girls would bring a new family to the Pack. Their father is an Eagle Scout and former scout leader (he doesn’t have sons so he hasn’t been involved with our Pack). Next week... committee meeting, meeting with DE.
  25. 1 point
    Depends on the reason he's struggling. For my son it was often just not paying attention in some subjects, talking too much and not getting instructions, not writing down homework etc. Others were he just didn't get the info that was being taught, that was math. He struggled pretty much almost every year in math from the 1st grade to now which is 9th grade.  In grammar school after forgetting to hand in homework or forgetting he had homework beacuse he didn't write the assignment down. I did drop the hammer, I told him no more scouts, no more playing basketball, no more friends ever coming over the house, no more dirtbike riding until he figured out how to stop talking and pay attention to the most important thing he has going which was school work. That fixed most things. But on an odd note. One day he forgets his math sheet for homework, I'm ready to explode but stay calm, Of course it's a troop meeting night. I say we will go to the meeting at school early, get your sheet and do it before the meeting. So we do that and he's in the meeting room trying to do the sheet and he can't figure out what to do. With that our SPL walks in to start getting the meeting set up and I ask the SPL...Do you know how to do this stuff? Can you help him. He says 'sure I'm in honors math (Junior)' that became the start of us hiring him for a weekly 1 hour tutoring session. We are on our third older scout tutor. He needed tutoring in 5th, 6th and part of 7th and needs one again now in 9th. Ours tutors have always been older scouts that were in honors math. Seems to click pretty well as they are comfortable with each other. Ask some of the older scouts in your troop, odds are you may have someone available and they like to make extra cash.