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    In the last district committee meeting I attended I asked if girls could attend the Cub Scout camps the summer of 2018. The individual responsible for the camp stated she asked and it was made clear that girls in Cub Scouts would start in September of 2018. The only official documents I have seen is fall of 2018 so September seems reasonable as the start.
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    The annual Memorial Illumination is "held the first Saturday in December because it provides a maximum amount of darkness and the battlefield leases about half the park to local farmers. The later start gives them time to clear their crops." Nearly 23,000 luminaries are placed to honor each soldier killed, wounded or missing during the Battle of Antietam on Sept. 17, 1862. "It's a tangible way to see 23,000," said Keith Snyder, chief of resource education and visitor services for the battlefield. "This was the bloodiest day in American military history. It's four times D-Day, six times Pearl Harbor and it's so hard for people to understand. So this way, you can drive through six miles of tour roads and see candles as far as you can see, each one representing one of those casualties. It's an amazing sight." "We have about 1,000 volunteers, which to me is the most amazing part," Snyder said. Of the volunteers, the largest are the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, some of whom came from beyond the Tri-State area. Snyder is most happy about the Scouts' participation because one of the battlefield's missions is to get youth involved. https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/local/antietam-national-battlefield-illumination-draws-thousands/article_829ca370-d7ca-11e7-bad8-4bc21894a48c.html I will have to see this some day.
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    The truth will out. This was a willful and deliberate act of humor by @David CO
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    "Moderator bias"? You do know the mods do this thankless task as a good turn to Boy Scouting? There is no "Troop Method" in Boy Scouting. There are simply adults, including some at B.S.A., who either do not believe in Boy Scouting as formally defined by B.S.A. for generations, or do not know what that definition is. The latter is quite understandable given the failure of B.S.A. to coherently define the Patrol Method for decades. It is also understandable given that BSA and its councils not only tolerate adult failure to supply Boy Scouting but do not even do the simple things that might be done, and have been done in the past, to encourage the use of Boy Scouting, such as recognizing those units which follow B.S.A. policy on the Patrol Method. It is far more understandable to me that those adult volunteers who sincerely do not believe in the Patrol Method will not use it than that persons employed by B.S.A. and its councils will not support with behavior the words that B.S.A. publishes - do not walk the talk. The most obvious manifestation, but not by any means the only behavior, that shows the belief system of the non-complying adult volunteers is their refusal to allow Scouts to freely elect their leadership: "They will pick the wrong ones." That canard was offered to explain why in fully 2/3 of the troops represented at a roundtable in 1986 adults reported that they appointed patrol leaders and SPLs. It is a short step to having adults plan and lead the program becasue "We do a better job." Nor, with respect, do I think this thread should be about "Which came first," although Scouting started with patrols and had independent patrols into 1969, however much that sincerely seems like "folly" to one of us. 1911 1930s 1969 I add that the the Troop Log of Troop 43, in which I was a Scout, began with the report of the meeting of the Eagle Patrol of the First Asbury Methodist-Episcopal Church. The real issue is, or ought to be, whether official B.S.A. program will be provided to the Scouts, why that should be done (beyond authority) or why it is an inferior idea to the the non-patrol method, sometime called the "troop method" or "boy-led troop method." "The Scout Way of Developing Leadership This training is carried out by giving to the boy through the Patrol System, opportunities for learning how to lead, by handling a small group, gang or Patrol. But if we are to get results, this responsibility must be a real one, and not merely one on paper. A Scoutmaster who does not make It his Principal objective to use his Patrol Leaders, rather than himself, to put over what he wants done, is failing, and need not be surprised if the result is a failure to? For a Troop to be successful in Scouting, the boys must live, move and have their being, in the Patrol. . . . One, two, three, four or five Patrols may form a Troop, but the Patrols are the working unit whenever practical and the Troop organization is designed to provide supervision, coordination, institutional loyalty and service. Boy Scouts of America, The Patrol Method, 1938 ed. at p. 2.
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    Are you indicating a moderator bias here? Since we have no forum for Troop Method, I would have preferred that it be left where it was.
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    Let's please remember that the original poster came here to get ideas on HOW to solve a particular problem. Like most threads in which people do that, some of the responses raise questions about whether there is a problem in the first place. That is not against the rules, but I think some of the responses here have been unnecessarily harsh. We are supposed to be "helpful", and provide that help in a "friendly" way.
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    I thought it was a general moral panic in Victorian England about "kids these days" being "too soft", and yes, I guess not ready to defend the empire. Unsurprising really, you take a bunch of city boys off to war in the african veldt and they get their backsides handed to them on a plate by the rufty tufty guys who had grown up there. Apparently one of my ancestors managed to survive a couple of particularly heavy defeats, but anyway... He did very much want scouting to become an international movement for peace, so as well as being pleased we're still lighting fires and playing games in the woods, hiking etc, I'd expect he'd have also liked things that break down the barriers between scouts of different nations. So JOTI, JOTA, Jamborees of all flavours, messengers for peace, all that sort of stuff. And the use of technology to bring people together.