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  2. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    Just out of curiosity, what are the two special awards? Judging by your mayor, it sounds like your pack is full of achievers. I hope your B&G goes wonderfully tomorrow!
  3. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    Are you KIDDING ME?!? Any pack in this country would give their right arm (right den?) to have a community leader as generous and loyal to Scouting as that man! I dare say the fact that he is a former pack member himself makes the whole thing sound too good to possibly be true; what a FABULOUS friend and opportunity you have - wow I am already envious (forgive me!). There is no rule whatsoever that states only pack leaders can hand out awards - in fact this kind of community involvement should be the ideal of every Scouting unit. As it turns out, hosting community and civic leaders at Scouting ceremonies seems to have been a common occurrence in the first half of the last century, though in the latter decades Scouting units unfortunately became more insular and less bold in getting local leaders involved. But think of the benefits! It gets the community involved in Scouting and their young people's lives, it makes local leaders aware of the program and more likely to involve it in its growth and development, and it gives the boys a well-earned and legitimate understanding that, even as youth, they are important players in their community and their nation. You go to your committee and tell them this kind of opportunity is absolutely heaven-sent and can only do good for your program. And besides even all that - your mayor sounds like one ardent supporter of the pack who more than deserves to participate in your ceremonies, at any level. You are extraordinarily fortunate to have him.
  4. Because merit badges and rank advancement are so strongly associated with boy scouting, I think it would be a mistake to eliminate them entirely. Let boys participate in the advancement program, if they wish to do so, but take all the patches (and other bling) off the uniform. Eliminate the COH. They are a boring waste of time.
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  6. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    I would think it was a fine idea even if the mayor was not an “alumnus” of the pack and an active supporter. With those factors added, it’s a great idea. What a good way to solidify community support for the pack. Plus, the Scouter who would otherwise be presenting the award can be standing next to the mayor for the presentation. Maybe he/she can introduce the mayor. It could be made into a positive thing for everybody.
  7. Well done MBs and advancement is very meaningful to the scouts. The challenge is every scout is not interested in every MB needed for advancement. IMHO, the advancement program should be changed to something that is meaningful and interesting to the scouts. Keep the challenge and growth factors. Maybe the SM and scout should work together to create a more personalized advancement itinerary. Maybe each time a rank is complete, the SM and scout could work to find a reasonable path for advancement to the next rank. I think the problem would be implementing a program that is fair and evenly applied.
  8. I think it has a place but they are over emphasized.
  9. I read so many threads with very experienced Scouters speaking quite negatively about merit badges and rank advancement. There is so much disparaging talk about Eagle mills and merit badge factories. Focusing on merit badges and the trail to Eagle means you are missing the point of Scouting and not having a quality experience. You are only a true Scout if you are in it for the fun. Some have even advocated for eliminating merit badges classes entirely from troop meetings and summer camp schedules. In the minds of some, advancement seems to be at the root of all that is wrong with Scouting because it introduces a corrupt motivation and becomes a distraction from having fun. This talk never ends here on Scouter.com which leads to me ask ... How many folks think that eliminating merit badges and rank advancement from the Scouting program would be a good thing? I'm actually not trolling - I'm asking a serious question.
  10. Date of BSA online advancement tool being turned off

    Yes. In scoutbook, the forums contain the info and the documentation. It is far from an ideal, practical or good situation. But it is what it is. You can search and find stuff. A TRICK you should know about ... Some commentators in the forum have an icon for "ScoutBook user Advisory Council.". If you click that patch, it takes you to this set of four page ... where all the documentation exists. https://www.scoutbook.com/mobile/forums/using-scoutbook/86040/suac-scoutbook-faq-and-resources-table-of-contents/
  11. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    The Cubmaster is fine with it. It is the Committee Chair who is opposed.
  12. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    Yes, involve the Mayor ! I assume those who object is not involve any political position. If not an award presentation, maybe leading the Cub Scout Promise in the opening ?
  13. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    I wish someone from my town did something like that! We couldn’t even get a council member... I find this a great oppurtunity and a great achievement that the mayor appreciates their pack. Traditionally, yes, DLs, CMs, etc, usually give out awards, but why not switch it up?
  14. Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    How does your Cubmaster feel about this? If I was Cubmaster, I would jump at the opportunity.
  15. Can a mayor give scouting awards to cub scouts? Opinions on this please? Our cub scout pack is holding their Blue & Gold dinner tomorrow. The mayor has been invited and is joining us for part of the day. We thought it would be nice for him to give 2 of our awards out. These 2 awards/situations are a bit more special than an average award so we thought it would be nice for him to do (and media may be involved). We have surprisingly been met with resistance from the old blood within the pack. They feel that he is only a guest and should not give any awards because he is not involved with/a member of our pack. The awards should only be given by den leaders or the cubmaster. The mayor was a cubscout in our pack when he was a kid. He gave our pack $1000 for uniforms and books. He gives us a school bus and driver from the town to use for events 1 or 2 times a year. He has asked us to lead parades, etc. The younger blood feels that is may be a snub to not ask him to be a part of the awards process. Hit me with your thoughts & opinions? Thanks. .
  16. This seems worth noting (from the BSA announcement of the change): "Once Scoutbook Lite is released, the Scoutbook database will become the official record of advancement for the BSA." Do they mean Scoutbook Lite, or is Lite a way into the sole and only official advancement record, Scoutbook?
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  18. I plan on getting a part time job as well, but in my state you basically need to be 16.
  19. We do. We have found that the church-owned camps offer more activity for the older scouts. Our Church is making a real effort to engage the older kids. There are several church-owned camps that are within our travel distance and budget. Many of my older scouts already have part-time jobs that pay a lot better than BSA. When they go to summer camp, they want a vacation ...not another job.
  20. We're no longer licensed to use Packmaster, and only the Arrow of Light den leader (who was also the advancement chair) entered anything last year. No going back to it, which is why I created Excel sheets that duplicate the individual history report. I've been taking those reports and manually entering the achievements into Internet Advancement, so that there's some kind of record for the boys. One of our den leaders hasn't submitted anything at all this year, but just went out and bought all the belt loops and Wolf ranks and handed them out to his boys. When I told him the ranks are usually done at Blue and Gold he said, "Blue and Gold is stupid." Sometimes it's tempting to throw the towel in. We're slowly pulling things together, though.
  21. Many BSA summer camps (ours included) have a high adventure program specifically targeted at older scouts who are not interested in earning merit badges. Very tempting activities like climbing, mountain biking, sailing, water skiing, etc. Minimum age 14 to participate.
  22. YPT

    Took the new YPT this morning (assuming I needed the most updated one for camp staff). Its completely different from the old YPT in my opinion. I feel like the new one is like a a documentary/lesson. It focused A LOT on sexual abuse. I feel like they should’ve focused more on two deep, digital, buddy system, etc. instead of a 30 second voice over for each.
  23. We’ve been going out of council and out of state for 6 years. Not many have the programs that I know of. We go to camps usually 2-3 hours away from home.
  24. They always to seem to find something ... Hang out and give sage advice to younger scouts. Talk with adults around campfire after taps about how to solve the problems of the world. Master a specialty like BSA Guard, Medicine, Shooting Sports, Climbing, Snorkeling, ... Ask the camp director for a service project. Retake a favorite merit badge, helping out the counselor in the process. Walk around the lake (it's a 5 mile hike) with some younger scouts trying to master land navigation. Walk around the lake and chat up the girls running the trading post at cub camp. (I later conveyed my troops apologies for that one.) Build a giant hamster wheel out of lashings and sticks for a scoutcraft competition. Convert a tarp named Bruce to a coracle named Kaitlin for an anything-that-floats competition. Use up my bailer twine to rig a lakeside bivouac in the trees. (Think basket weaving, but beds instead of seats.)
  25. Fair enough. I'm not sure where you live but start looking in neighboring councils for camps with programs for older scouts. Many of them take solo scouts and mix them together. You and your buddy could have a lot of fun. Make it an adventure! Even if you're not old enough to drive you can get someone to drop you off and pick you up. My friend and I did just that when we were about your age.
  26. While you may be paid less, you get away from the parents, and you will work with folks that will become friends for a lifetime. There is something special about being Summer Camp Staff, and I wish I would have worked it in HS instead of college and as a pro. But since I was essentially supporting myself once my father left, I needed the money,.
  27. New merit badge idea?

    We used the same kit in leather working that I used as a kid!
  28. Read my post above about me working at camp ^
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    • Just out of curiosity, what are the two special awards? Judging by your mayor, it sounds like your pack is full of achievers. I hope your B&G goes wonderfully tomorrow!
    • Are you KIDDING ME?!?  Any pack in this country would give their right arm (right den?) to have a community leader as generous and loyal to Scouting as that man! I dare say the fact that he is a former pack member himself makes the whole thing sound too good to possibly be true; what a FABULOUS friend and opportunity you have - wow I am already envious (forgive me!). There is no rule whatsoever that states only pack leaders can hand out awards - in fact this kind of community involvement should be the ideal of every Scouting unit. As it turns out, hosting community and civic leaders at Scouting ceremonies seems to have been a common occurrence in the first half of the last century, though in the latter decades Scouting units unfortunately became more insular and less bold in getting local leaders involved. But think of the benefits! It gets the community involved in Scouting and their young people's lives, it makes local leaders aware of the program and more likely to involve it in its growth and development, and it gives the boys a well-earned and legitimate understanding that, even as youth, they are important players in their community and their nation.  You go to your committee and tell them this kind of opportunity is absolutely heaven-sent and can only do good for your program. And besides even all that - your mayor sounds like one ardent supporter of the pack who more than deserves to participate in your ceremonies, at any level. You are extraordinarily fortunate to have him.
    • Because merit badges and rank advancement are so strongly associated with boy scouting, I think it would be a mistake to eliminate them entirely.  Let boys participate in the advancement program, if they wish to do so, but take all the patches (and other bling) off the uniform.  Eliminate the COH. They are a boring waste of time.   
    • I would think it was a fine idea even if the mayor was not an “alumnus” of the pack and an active supporter.  With those factors added, it’s a great idea.  What a good way to solidify community support for the pack. Plus, the Scouter who would otherwise be presenting the award can be standing next to the mayor for the presentation.  Maybe he/she can introduce the mayor.  It could be made into a positive thing for everybody.
    • Well done MBs and advancement is very meaningful to the scouts.  The challenge is every scout is not interested in every MB needed for advancement.   IMHO, the advancement program should be changed to something that is meaningful and interesting to the scouts.  Keep the challenge and growth factors.  Maybe the SM and scout should work together to create a more personalized advancement itinerary.  Maybe each time a rank is complete, the SM and scout could work to find a reasonable path for advancement to the next rank.   I think the problem would be implementing a program that is fair and evenly applied.  
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