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    • So, I'm reminded that no matter what the deadline, there will always be people who push it.  If national said "you can finish you tenure as an adult". Someone will start their 6 months of tenure the day after their 18th birthday.  There would then be an article about the great Scout who had to complete his tenure as an adult, but was denied the rank.  If you keep saying "we'll make an exception", then it will never end. It stinks, but it's reality.
    • And a few hours ago I sat in the front row as the only vigil on the team, a 20 year old ceremonialist in the role of Meteu draped a Vigil " cookie " over his father's head, and told him that he needed a new sash. 
    • I went to an engeering school like RPI.  I am an engineer today.   There is a lot if truth to this.
    • When unread “technicality” I immediately thought something like a Merit Badge was completed but not recorded properly, or paperwork was turned in but a signature was in the wrong place, or maybe he had an extended illness that delayed him. Those are technicalities beyond the Scouts control. There are remedies for those situations. But the time in rank is a well known and well documented requirement. That requirement nearly caught up with me more than 3 decades ago, it has nearly caught up with several Eagles I have mentored. It did trip up one I mentored. It is not a technicality, it is a requirement. And it’s not one I hear people complain about being unfair. I do not feel sorry for him, he had a good Scouting experience based on the article. It looks like he has good character based on his comments. I say congratulations on what you have achieved. Nothing is preventing him from continuing as a Scouter, most Scouters are not Eagles. If he chooses not to become a Scouter based solely on feeling slighted by not earning his Eagle then he probably shouldn’t have earned it in the first place. If he does become a Scouter he will have a significant life lesson to pass on to his Scouts. It’s not a technicality if you show up for a college exam 2 hours late and fail the test. It’s not a technicality if you fail to take a licensing exam prior to your deadline. It’s not a technicality if you don’t complete a project by the time the client needs it. If there is some technicality, like I listed above, then I would support National In giving him some more time, but I don’t see that in the article.  Eagle Scout is not a participation trophy given out because you tried hard or you are a good kid, it is earned based on then prevailing rules. Congratulations to this young man, it appears he has a bright future with or without having earned Eagle.
    • Yes - this.  Scouting is about adventure.  It's not a arts and crafts club.  Sure, some are needed to support the adventure, but they don't replace it. My son's bear den leader was the grandfather of one of the boys.  He held the program to a really high standard.  Not in terms of expectation from the boys, but in terms of really digging into the adventure.  I always remember how he taught the boys about knife safety.  It took us 3 meetings each about 90 minutes.  He brought in every knife imaginable.  He showed the boys about knives meant for cleaning deer, knives meant for breaking bones in animals, knives meant for surgery.  We had a whole meeting just on how to sharpen a knife and all the different kinds of sharpening stones.  The other bear den in our pack spent one meeting and spent it all whittling soap. We had a pack camping trip.  The den leader spent weeks going over how to camp cook.  My son, who hadn't cooked in his life LOVED it.  When we got to the camping trip, my son's den was cooking their own meals.  The other den - I think the boys might have flipped pancakes. Crafts - why would we do that? There were only 25 den meetings and a lot to cover. I relate tbe experience because he taught me that: 1) time is precious 2) there is wonder all around us.  We just have to embrace it. My recommendation: instead of stepping back, embrace the wonder.  Spend 3 weeks teaching knife safety.     
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