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    • More than Webelos 3, I guess this is what I was going for.     Starting a New Troop 1. With only a small group of boys available. The Scoutmaster-to-be who finds himself with a small group of boys wanting to be Scouts is most fortunate. He will be able to devote his whole time to getting that individual touch with these boys, which a large number would make impossible. And, at the same time, the nucleus of a fine growing Troop with a real esprit de corps is being formed and the Scoutmaster can look forward to watching it become a full Troop with thirty-two Scouts. Lord Baden-Powell was once asked why a Troop should not exceed thirty-two members. His reply was that as a young man he found it impossible to get a personal touch and satisfactory results in sound training, with more than sixteen fellows. He went on to say: "Assuming that every other, Scoutmaster is twice as capable as myself, it is best for a Troop not to exceed thirtytwo." When the Scoutmaster is starting a Troop with a small group his immediate objective is to put into being the Patrol Method. At first, before the boys have passed their Tenderfoot requirements, the Scoutmaster-to-be may serve as temporary Patrol Leader, meeting with the boys once a week for a month (longer, if necessary) to train the boys thoroughly in •the fundamentals of Scouting so that they may pass their Tenderfoot requirements with a complete understanding of what Scouting is and what it means to the Scout just entering. As this preliminary group grows in number to, say, ten, twelve, or fourteen boys, the time comes when it is ready to take the shape of a Scout Troop of two Patrols,  
    • Ok here are some links I have found. And I want to give  a shout out to @Kudu and his Inquiry.net website. It has a wealth of information there. And I want to apologize about the wrong year for the 3rd edition of the SMHB, it was published in 1936, not 1929.   Ok here to the links that can help. http://scoutmastertroop56.weebly.com/uploads/1/6/8/6/16867144/the_patrol_method_helps_for_scoutmasters.pdf  links to a 1938 pamphlet to help SMs. While Bill is not credited, he probably wrote it. http://inquiry.net/patrol/index.htm Is a ton of resources on the Patrol Method.   I believe this is Hillcourt's training regimen. @Kudu, please correct me if I am wrong. Start of the training http://inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/index.htm 1st meeting http://inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/1st.htm 2nd meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/2nd.htm 3rd meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/3rd.htm Hike http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/3z_hike.htm 4th meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/4th.htm 5th meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/5th.htm 6th meeting http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/6th.htm PLC Camp Out http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/6z_camp.htm As I stated previously, not advancement oriented, but establishing a youth run troop oriented. Kudu also has posted other materials on training Scouts as well. Another source of info  is http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/nonfict.html Looks to be Canadian in origin. EH!   Hope this helps.  
    • CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Seriously though, I will be looking to see if anyone has posted Bill's stuff to the net. Again I lent my copy of the 3rd edition SM handbook, to a Scoutreach SM to help him out. He used it to start 4 troops that he was the SM for. Sadly when he left the area, no one in the troops stepped up to the plate, and they folded.   And I didn't get the book back either.
    • @Eagle94-A1  Post a link to Green Bar Bill's ideas on how to start a new troop.   One challenge always is for the kids to figure out who would be a good leader and getting to know each other so they can vote on who would be a good PL (or SPL). I'd suggest the first meeting include one or two get to know you games.  And, run the games so that the girls start asserting their personality.  You will quickly know who would do well standing up in front of others and helping keep things moving.   I'd also start PL (SPL) early, but keep it simple.  Then continually grow their role as they are ready.  Continually though, focus on them having positive experiences as a leader.  Otherwise, it can be intimidating and will scare off future scouts from volunteering to do.    
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