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    • Welcome to the campfire!
    • I suppose I should have been more specific.  The incident has already occurred but there is talk of whether or not it violated BSA guidelines. They did not seek prior approval or attempt proper channels (peers, SPL, ASPL, etc ) of trying to resolve the issue first before immediately jumping to a search.   Scouts were on a weekend campout. An adult leader claims he smelled a “fruity smell” on a scout’s breath and told the SM.  They decided a search was in order and justified based on the “fruity smell” which made them suspicious of a possible vaping device.  A surprise search of tents and backpacks ensued while the scouts were present.  It was not done secretly behind their backs.  No vaping device was found.  Parents not in attendance were not notified prior to or after.  I believe the other adults on the campout assumed that the proper procedure was being enforced and basically just agreed. I have spoken to the SM and he is adamant that the search was within the guidelines because there was a threat of potential “dangerous contraband”.   Hope that makes the situation clearer.  Thank you ! 
    • @ArmyScout welcome to the forum!
    • @perdidochasSame with ours.  ... I flip-flop on whether BSA uniform is CEREMONIAL or FUNCTIONAL.  Sports analogy ...   Football players don't wear full uniform to ceremonies.  At best, maybe the jersey.  Usually, suit and tie. Basketball players don't wear shiny shorts to press conferences.  They usually wear street clothes.   Coaches (aka adult leaders) rarely wear the team uniform.  Maybe baseball.   Players just don't suit up for meetings and ceremonies.  The uniform is for doing the activity.  Military analogy ... Most military branches separate dress and activity uniforms.  Dress uniforms are kept sharp. activity uniforms get worn hard.   Scouts ...   Functionally bad... Shirts with patches everywhere and pins marking years and hanging patches for temporary events.  Some sew on huge patch areas on the shirt beyond the uniforming guide.   New heavy cloth pants are really not my preferred cloth for hiking.  I'd rather have something light weight that breaths.   Zip-off pants are really more zip-lost in my house.  It's just too hard to track and keep coordinated.   As for position patches, position patches are much more often wrong than right.    IMHO, the uniform is mainly ceremonial and to create group identity as a group (useful in itself and very useful during travel).  Beyond that, it's just not a "functional" uniform.   If I could make a uniform change I'd suggest troops have a POR box.  At the start of meetings, scouts with a POR retrieve their POR badge and wear it.  At the end, it's stored again.  It's how our KOC works.  Or have velcro on shoulders and the POR patches have the other velcro side.   I'd suggest the MB sash be enlarged for decorative patches and other meaningful decorations so that we can keep the uniform as clean cut as possible.
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