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    • I have major issues with BSA actively entering the political arena.  By mentioning B. Taylor, they have gone way beyond selling war bonds and into anti-police propaganda.  That is something that they can't take back.  I don't think that scouts should actively engage in any social issues.  That's not our role.  We should be role models for society through our actions, not our words.  I don't like forced anything - it reeks of insincerity.  If your troop/pack is open to anyone who wants to join up and participate in this organization, then that's all that should be required.  We are probably one of the most open organizations on the planet.  We have published a book for 110 years that explains who we are and what we believe.  While society may have interpreted it in various ways for us through time, the core has not faltered.  Some of this stuff sounds awfully close to bussing.  I think that kids in Scouting will get enough diversity training in their lives.  Adding in a merit badge does sound a lot like school.  The equity thing is a very loaded term.  While its focus on equal outcome is debated, it's focus on unequal assistance is not debatable.  It goes beyond accommodation for physical handicaps and into social condition.  Scouting is all about improving one's lot in life through your own efforts.  What does this equity look like in the MB?  Lowering a standard because of where a Scout lives?  Would anyone accept requiring fewer hikes from Scouts in NYC vs one from rural NC?  One big issue is the "lens" one is required, or tends, to adopt with DEI and CRT.  It's like having just a hammer in your tool box.  I'm currently in a masters program that is heavy in "anti-racism" (as if there is a significant "pro-racism" sector of society).  One lecture literally told the students that the hog farms in eastern NC were established out of racism.  They showed a slide of the slave population locations in 1860 and one of the hog farm sites from 2019.  They did not mention the tobacco buyout in the 1990s.  They didn't mention that these farms were converted from tobacco to hogs because the terrain was perfectly suited for them, nor that these farms had been in these families for generations.  The story sold to these kids is that these farms were sited in these locations because black people lived there.  That is a shameful tactic in my book.
    • So no one "starts" "equal, ' as you say,  and, thus "equity, "a KEY component of critical race theory" is "impossible,. as you say.  That being agreed, your "critical race theory' is an illusion - a slogan divorced from reality - an excuse for throwing responsibility for the inevitably unequal outcomes, on someone(s) other than the individuals themselves.   If you speak for BSA, we owe you sincere thanks.  You have explained the evil we must utterly crush.   "On my honor,  I will do my best ....." "A Scout is ...." "Discrimination," by the way, is largely legal and ethical.  It is through discrimination that we do not voluntarily  contribute to the funds to pay "leaders" who produce bad results for the organization, as baseball teams discriminate against "every day" players who cannot hit a breaking ball.  
    • I merely wanted my responses to be distinct from your statements.  In the spirit of Scouting, your apology is accepted, though your capacity to get me "upset' is so nearly zero as to be immaterial.   i went through Nazis threatening my wife for my representation of "Mud People'" in court.  THAT was upsetting. I have spoken to dozens of "national" volunteers and not a one imagined that volunteers have actual power over, or even much influence on,  BSA decisions.  This is one key reason Tico resigned as National Commissioner. Further, your admission that BSA will not enforce its rules against dishonest behaviors - and the fact that it indeed upholds the dishonestly - speaks volumes about BSA  responsibility. for that dishonesty.  And here we are. It happens  in discussions that  something other than the "official" opinion may  be held by some - even most - participants despite the repetition of the official position.    
    • To Tahawk, Sorry to get you so upset that you used all capital letters that is said to mean yelling.  Was not trying to argue.  See below.   To Tahawk and Eagle94-A1, Perhaps some of the issue between us that to me in these times, BSA means the National Council.  Local councils are independent 501c3 corporations with their own boards that operate largely independently.  The contract between the National Council and local councils authorizes the local councils to operate the program.  The only actual recourse that the National Council has over the local councils is two things.  One is that the National Council can decommission the Scout Executive that means that they are no longer qualified for the position.  It is not clear what would happen if the local council Executive Board refused to allow the SE to leave.  Probably would be decided by the local councils state laws.  The other option is to revoke the council charter that would mean that a new council would have to be formed.  Both of those are extreme measures and would never be used because a council is not being rigorous enough in youth fulfilling requirements.   So many of the issues between us appear to be that I am exclusively referring to the National Council unless it is specifically called out to be the local council.  There is much variability in councils and how they are managed.  The BSA has little input into those councils.  How they are run depends upon the local Executive Committee and Executive Board.  All members of the EC and EB are by definition volunteers. On the national level, all National Executive Committee (NEC) and National Executive Board (NEB) are volunteers by definition.  For nearly a decade, I have served on various national committees.  All are chaired by volunteers (usually a NEB member), have a single national professional who serves as staff, and only volunteers can vote.  All decisions about all policies, program changes, financial issues, human resources, benefit packages, etc (in other words, everything) is made by those volunteers.  During the past decade, I have been involved with a Venturing Crew, a Troop, and a Pack.  Most national committee members whom I know are still active with units in their councils or have been so within the last few years.  Like local council executive boards, the National Executive Board has some members who are not active at the unit level, some may have been Scouts as a youth, but all are very successful in business.  All are volunteers - it is required just as it is for local boards. The National Staff carries out decisions of the committees of the NEB.  They do not make any significant decisions themselves.  Their job is to carry out what the volunteers have decided.  The National Professional Staff strictly adheres to Volunteer Led and Professionally Guided, that is the professionals provide input but the volunteers make all of the policy and other decisions. The NEC and NEB volunteers are very dedicated, loyal, sensitive to all points of view, and always want to know how potential decisions affect the youth members. Local councils boards are similar in make up.  So the volunteers who are working in the units need to be pro-active. There are 253 local councils and it makes no sense for me to try to defend the actions of which I only know about one - my local council.    
    • This year is the 50th anniversary of the Girl Rangers! Article below follows Outside article by former Ranger Betsy Teter. “We always knew we were doing something groundbreaking," Teter said. “I wish this sort of outdoor experience existed for everyone. It was formative.” Dunlap and the other former Girl Rangers agreed. “At the time, I knew, you couldn’t be a girl in the 70s, in a Boy Scout uniform, and not think I am doing something different,” Dunlap said. “We did everything in terms of outdoor adventures that the boys did. It felt like a nice leveling of the playing field. I did not miss having to sell Girl Scout cookies and we didn’t do crafts and we didn’t get badges, it was just ‘where could we go?’ and that was exciting and liberating and equalizing.” Spartanburg Girl Rangers broke gender barrier in 1970. What happened to them is a mystery https://www.goupstate.com/story/lifestyle/2020/11/27/decades-before-boy-scouts-went-coed-girl-rangers-broke-gender-barrier/5960676002/
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