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    • @mrkstvns  Yes, agreed.  My only point was that the requirement for BOR is for Scouts to "successfully complete" them.  Board members can approve, not approve, or adjourn and reconvene later.  The requirement for SM conferences is for the Scout to "participate".  Again, not trying to take the thread off on a tangent.
    • I see where you're coming from.  Yeah, for a whole summer, it's probably wiser to just bite the bullet on up-front costs and go for a nice REI jacket.
    • Even if the REI one rips you could always call them and they’ll ship you a replacement free of charge
    • I have one son who just graduated high school and another going into 9th grade.  We have had many school (grade level), band & church outings over the years.  We have never had the adults open any luggage or pack to inspect for any contraband items.  I don't know of any times that there have been unannounced searches without the owner of the bag (at minimum the student) being present.  And even in those very limited situations where a bag has been searched, it was a limited scope to include the bags of a very small group.  In one case, 4 students were staying together in a room.  One student claimed that something was missing.  The bags of those 4 students were searched, with the students being present.  There was no room to room search of every bag of every student.  We have never done this in Scouting either.  As a Scoutmaster, I'm not searching bags without a very valid, specific reason.  The situation in the OP seems quite troubling to me.  As a parent, I would have a problem with adults arbitrarily searching bags like that also.   In a Scouting context, there is no 4th amendment issue as BSA is a private organization.  However, with the schools, that could come into play as the adults leading the school sanctioned trips would be agents of the state at that point.  How do you articulate that you have probable cause to search each bag, of each student, just to make sure there is nothing in there that they aren't supposed to have?  
    • Lions are not supposed to join until August-September when they are actually in kindergarten.  What I have heard (indirectly / second hand) from the Cub Scout team is that packs can decide to award the pin either way, whichever way works best for them.  IMO, now that Lions are officially part of the Cub Scout program and because there is no Lion summertime pin, it makes sense to me that the summer between kindergarten and 1st grade they would earn the Tiger summertime pin.  Otherwise, they would earn nothing during the summer between their Lion (K) and Tiger (1st grade) year.  I also think it is less confusing to the Cubs and parents this way, because at the end of the school year they are advanced to the next den level.
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