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    • I think the difference, is that generally at Church, Work, and your Children's School, there is an expectation that an essentially immediate medical response is available.    Even on normal weekend campouts, even if they're car-camping, Scouts and Scouters are likely to end up far enough from an immediate response by emergency professionals that the unit adults/scouts may have to provide emergency care for 30 minutes or more.  That care could require access to some health history information. I suspect you'll find that most organizations, Church, Work, School, etc, if they're going to put you in a situation where they are obliged to take responsibility for your health for any period of time, will also require that you give them the information that they'd need to do so, if necessary.   At the end of the day, I do agree with the "minimum necessary" information requirement though - which, since Part B is filled out by the individual, really is all that you're required to provide.   If it's irrelevant that you had your wisdom teeth removed, you probably don't include that in the history on Part B.  If there's something that might actually affect whether we can keep you alive long enough for professionals to arrive, it's up to you whether you include it or not. At the end of the day it comes down to "A Scout is Trustworthy".  If you don't trust me to maintain confidentiality with whatever information you choose to include on your Part B form, you probably shouldn't trust me enough to go on a campout, or let your child go on a campout with me anyway.
    • I fully expect that we'll find cases like yours where the information was beneficial and I'm sure even life saving.  It's pretty much an indefensible argument to make that we should take the precaution to collect a healt from. But, there are lots of places I visit with some freqency where something could happen and a health information form would be useful - church, work, my children's school just to name a few.  Yet, none of those ask me for a health form.  In an era where we have limited adult volunteers and we're working hard to get parents engaged I just wonder if it's worth the effort for unit leaders to deal with this administration for adults - particularly non-registered adults.  I suppose if it saves one life the answer if yes, it's worth it.  But, I do wonder.  
    • Don't just come back and read, tell me what works, or doesn't, with your unit!
    • I'm afraid I have to differ.  Having had one of our adults go down, with what looked like a heart attack when we were on an overnight weekend campout, I'm grateful for the medical history details in our adult medical forms.  We weren't at Philmont, we were just at a small state park campsite in Ohio, 20-minutes dead run from the nearest cell phone signal, and about an hour from the nearest emergency-response team that could launch an ambulance.  You don't need to be in the backcountry to need information now, and for that information to be critical for keeping you alive.  "They're an adult, they can tell you what you need to know if you need to know it" doesn't work, when they're unconscious.
    • I think there's room for differing opinions with respect to whether that's treating adults as adults, or as spoiled children who will take their ball and go home if they don't get their way 🙂 That aside, it sounds like you're suggesting that we add a requirement, in addition to the 2-registered adults, for an EMT to be present at all scout activities where health-forms are required?  I think Scouting can probably survive with those adults who are unwilling to trust a unit leader with their medical form, staying home, better than it can survive a requirement that units have an EMT on-site at all campouts/etc. ... I'm also not sure why you think that an adult who omitted a detail that only they knew in their medical history from the voluntary-disclosure on Part B, would be barred from participation in a scouting activity.
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