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    • those are awesome!  how I think it should be in a perfect world.  Talk about taking patrol spirit and troop pride to another level.....I'd add that the patrol leaders should all have keys to the place so the patrols can have meetings on their own time.... keeping the adults "out of it".  A real scout hut club house! Meanwhile, my troop as a boy, was much like the Troop I volunteered for.  We fought every other ministry in the church, along with wedding receptions and the rest, for space in the parish hall or the school cafeteria....  No regular place even to store the troop's flag.... we'd have to look for it every time to find which corner or closet it got squirreled into....   curious about those examples.... who charters these troops?  who owns the building and land for these troops to have such an awesome set-up?
    • Brian, are you talking about the Cub Scout summer day camp at Watchung Reservation?  (Or at least that's where it was when my son went, but that was 15+ years ago.)
    • Your day camp does not provide bussing?
    • You bring up some good points. I'm guessing this is the bone of contention. While I'd like to believe that the BSA will do this my gut feeling is that membership numbers are the only thing of any real concern. If they were as interested in getting the patrol method working well in 90% of the troops, where scouts lead scouts under the wisdom of an adult, I'd be a lot more comfortable. Food for thought: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-differences-between-genders
    • Come on, gang,  this is all about "market share" and "loyalty "  and "faith". Scouting started up and went world wide because there was a previously unacknowledged desire for child friendly adventure. And Belonging. And the Practice of Adulthood Before you got there... Every kid,  Boy or Girl,  wants to be part of a "Gang".  That can be Scouts,  the football team, the marching band, a MYF group or MS13.    We favor Scouts because we know how it helped us along, and see the benefit of learning the ideals of the Scout Law and Promise earlier rather than later in your adult life.  Frederick Douglas said it best,  "It is easier to build strong children  rather than try and repair  broken men." The GSUSA and Girl Guides have always been (bless'em) dedicated to the females of our species.  It is demonstrably sad that they have fallen away from their historically adventurous program.  If the BSA has always been dedicated to the adventurous type of the training (see the Douglas quote above) and the GSUSA has tended toward the more "traditional" female type things, THAT is why we are now facing the change we see.   The Market Share is now being defined by  girls that want the adventure part of that training that the GSUSA has recently come to organizationally deny.   Can you blame them?   If the BSA can provide (female separate Troops/Patrols/Dens) but the same design and intention of an adventurous, safe danger,  allowed to lead, type of program, then we will all benefit thereby.   "A Game With  A Purpose" indeed.   
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