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Lessons and questions of Scout leadership and operating troop program

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    • Won't you be, my neighbor... Being in Mayflower Council, I think we fully expect the merger between Old Colony Council and Knox Trail Council in 2017 was a short-term strategy, and that there would at least be an Eastern MA Council by 2022- merging Spirit of Adventure Council, Mayflower Council and Cape Cod and the Islands Council (it is my understanding that the SE in Cape Cod and the Islands is due to retire in early 2021, so it would not surprise me if this occurs by Q2 2021).  I agree with @Cburkhardt that change is coming- we can only hope that it comes with some improved strategic plan to ease it. The Mayflower merger hasn't been without bumps in the road, and some are still not fully resolved.  The biggest issues, IMO, are lack of transparency.  Our SE is good at getting the template emails provided by National out to everyone in the Council, but we've never had an email or social media post from him about any overarching vision for the "new" council.  We have one camp that has been on a decline of summer camp attendees for years, and is likely to run at about 20% of the Scouts BSA numbers they had 10 years ago- the handwriting is on the wall to many of us that the Scouts BSA summer program there needs to be shuttered, but being that ~50% of the E Board membership is from that end of the Council, they are fighting the reality.  I know a number of Scouters in SOA, and I would say that from what they have had to say about the current Council operations, your observations seem valid (having 3 DE's serving 6 Districts doesn't feel ideal to me).      
    • I would agree that there needs to be an evaluation process (though, for all we know that has been completed already in the lead up this process National began) on how many will be kept, how many are retiring by year end, etc.  The quality of the personnel should dictate to a large extent just how you can allocate them.    
    • @ALongWalk thanks for posting. Even if you don't consider your son to be a gung ho Scout, or as I joke "A Super Scout", I'm glad he's benefited from his time as a Scout and you and your family can see how it's helped him. Eagle or not, that is our goal.
    • I have been a part of a council merger that had strengths and weaknesses in both councils.  My old one had a strong central council while the one merging had strong districts but weak central council.  The merger was rough for some but I think it really came out well for everyone involved in the long run.  The leadership of both councils wanted to get a single vision for the new council and all move towards a common goal.  They had brain storming meetings within every district that was open to everyone.  I attended one in a different district and was amazed how well everyone was looking for the future.  Everything was done in the open and information was easily available.  If we start seeing councils merge this trait needs to be there.  Information and feedback accepted and given.  Make everyone part of the process, don't just do it behind closed doors.  You will get a strong focused and directed towards a common goal will help councils thrive.
    • He turns 18 in a couple of months.  I watched him go up and receive a couple of MB’s that he has earned. The SM asked him to talk about his Eagle Project that he is going to try to get completed over the next two months.  He is such a confident and well spoken young man.  Scouting had a big part to play in that...leadership roles in the troop (including SPL), weekends camping with his troop, weeks at summer camp, working a summer at summer camp, a trip to the National Jamboree, relationships with his adult leaders.  I am positive that these things have been net positives for him in his growth to being a young man. I am so happy that he came home with the “flyer” in the 1st grade.  It has been a wonderful journey....one that I was with him on through Cubs and one where I have been more behind him in Boy Scouts.  He is not a gung-ho Scout...honestly, if I had said “Hey, you are busy....you don’t have to be a member if you don’t want to” he would have quit in a heartbeat.  But he stuck it out and hopefully will make it to Eagle....but if he doesn’t that is ok too.  I used to read you guys posting that statement and I would think no way but I get it now.  It really is about the journey.  But....I really do hope he makes it. 🙂 Thank you guys for providing this opportunity for the youth of your nation. It matters.  
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