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    • I wouldn't be a scout leader in a troop where routine searching of luggage was the norm.  I agree that the power to do so should exist, but I also believe in trust. There is no way you can gain trust without trusting someone. Now, if there was a reasonable suspicion, I could see searching, but not without it.  As I've said, my sons were involved in Scouting, sports, band and church groups, all of which involved overnight travel at one point or another. I'm not aware that any searches were ever done of them, and I would find it odd if it did. 
    • What kind of fascist place do you live in?     I'm glad I live in a free area of a free state.  
    • My sons were involved in sports (with overnight trips to games) and band (with overnight trips). Never once did their luggage get searched, although, I do know the coaches/band directors had that power.  Do the searches that you claim happen occur secretly, or in front of the students?  
    • I think the  problem most of us have, is that it was done while the Scouts were at activities, and that they were never told about it, but figured it out.  I agree totally that the SM has the right to search a backpack or locker, as part of his en loco parentis.  However, since he's not the parent, he should do so transparently--out in the open, in front of the Scout who's stuff is being searched.  
    • "A National Guard facility in Pennsylvania refused to allow a Trail Life USA scouting troop to tour their facility because of the group’s religious affiliation. The Fort Indiantown Gap National Guard facility regularly hosts tours for Boy Scout troops and other organizations, but the Trailmen were told they could not participate because they belonged to a Christian scouting organization. . . . The National Guard’s public affairs office did not return multiple inquiries seeking comment. . . . The ordeal began in February when Troop PA-2717 were initially told they could tour the facility. In April, a staff sergeant called the troop master and said the tour had been denied because of the group’s religious affiliation. The idea that Christian boys would be banned strictly because of their religious beliefs is not only ludicrous, but it’s also illegal. And that’s why the Trail Life troop got in touch with First Liberty Institute and the Independence Law Center, two organizations that specialize in religious liberty cases. “Fort Indiantown Gap’s denial of access to the base facilities, which are open to other civic, fraternal, and youth organizations and for youth activities, constitutes viewpoint discrimination,” the law firms wrote in a letter to the National Guard. The attorneys said the National Guard’s decision to ban the Christian scouting group is “discriminatory and unconstitutional.” John Stemberger, the chairman of the Trail Life USA board, said told the "Todd Starnes Radio Show" that it’s disheartening that a “federal institution like the Army is buying into this leftist idea that faith has to be excluded from the public square.” “It’s sad that an institution of our society is treating faith like it is some kind of bacteria or virus that needs to be exterminated from secular society,” Stemberger told me. “We need faith integrated with society.” The good news is that once First Liberty Institute and the Independence Law Center got involved, the National Guard quickly backed down and rescinded the ban on the Trailmen. “We are grateful that the Guard has chosen to open its doors to the Trail Life troop,” ILC attorney Jeremy Samek said in a statement. “The boys from Trail Life USA’s troop deserve to be treated fairly and equally. I know they are excited to get the opportunity to interact with those who defend our freedom.” https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-trail-life-national-guard-pennsylvania  
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