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    • Plaintiffs' lawyers are after money.  That is their only objective for the most part.  If the BSA gets "destroyed," they could not care less.  The more they say, "It's not about money," the more it's about the money.  For the victims, money can be secondary.
    • Let's look at a few of the comments and negatively weighted parts of this article. First:  Any of us that have been around for any length of time likely agree with the statement about inflated pay.  It has been a thorn in our sides for years.  But, it has gotten far better in the last decade or so.  Also, it seems to me that most of the statements about pay do include the pension benefits and medical, so the total figure is skewed a bit.  Still, in this area, it seems to be legitimate to challenge the system even more going forward.  The comment about people standing in line likely refers to pension benefits I would think, and that is why they are there. 2nd:  Isn't it time for the BSA and others that do not feel misleading journalism is right or fair challenge the terminology that the press has labeled the "Ineligible volunteer fils" with?  They were never called the perversion files except by the yellow journalists.  Similar to the "Obama Care" and "Affordable Care Act".  By calling them perversion files, and intimating that BSA called them that as well, they put the worst meaning on them.  But, many of the files had nothing to do with child abuse, but other things that would make someone not acceptible.  Of course, I have no idea how to fight that, as that is what the sensationalist journalists (?) count on. 3rd:  Why are these stories never complete with all the details.  For example, how is BSA overall over say the past 3-4 decades in comparison to YMCA, Schools, Sports programs.  I think the figures indicate that BSA percentage wise is the lowest, or almost the lowest, even though they are the largest group.  Also, why do the stories seldom mention that the perpetrator was also in other positions that allowed them to be in youth contact, such as teaching, sports, church, or even law enforcement?  Why is only the BSA being sued if the perpetrator also was part of these organizations? 4th:  Explain to me, all you experts and finger pointers and so on how destroying BSA serves anybody's best interests, when the overall good over the past century plus of such magnitude, and continues to overall fulfill its aims?  And why do the "ambulance chasers" think they should be able to bend the norm and drag parts of the organization into the melee?  I truly have no idea what it is about destroying one of the better parts of our society that serves any positive purpose, other than more money in the lawyer's pocket.  Our legal system truly needs some serious overhauling, not just because of this, but as see constantly in absolutely insane sawsuits and weird judgements that do not take actual personal responsibility into play. 5th:  Is there really anyone making all the accusations and demands for compensation who actually thinks that that will solve the problem of evil people that prey on the weak and helpless, or will somehow make up for mistakes from decades ago?  A few of the actual lawyers have suggested they and their clients only want the BSA to do better.  Well, in the past twenty years BSA has developed the model YP plan, one that is a template for other groups.  They have already been offering counseling and other help to past victims, before the lawsuits.  And they continue to search for ways to improve that.  Also, note that decades ago, the IEV files were something nobody else even had, nor made a broad effort to combat the bad actors.  Some of the files note that family members and authorities chose to NOT do anything, for whatever reason.  We are dragging problems of society from decades before, ones that were met with different methods then, into today's society and trying to somehow turn back the clock.   Finally:  If you have read the report by the Doctor of psychology that investigate the IEV files in depth, you know that she notes that there is NO absolute way to stop these actions by sick, misguided individuals other than vigilance and tight rules.  But the psychologists cannot absolutely determine who might perpetuate these crimes.        
    • "All the while, pay for Boy Scouts’ top brass jumped more than 14 percent, with then-top Scout Michael B. Surbaugh paid $873,927 in total compensation in 2017, according to the national council’s most recent tax returns." "Boy Scout Director Mark Logemann received total compensation of $625,016, while Bradley Farmer got $602,874. Eight other executives earned more than $400,000, and another four made more than $335,000." "First-class travel — necessary so employees can discuss business during flights, according to its filings — cost $382,490 over the six years examined by the Southern California News Group. Travel for spouses — “critical” to furthering the family-oriented organization’s mission and business purpose — cost $187,696 over those years, while membership in airline clubs cost $20,667." Boy Scouts of America weighed down by red ink, high pay for execs before bankruptcy
    • So much for living the Scout Law... a Scout being thrifty and all.  You make $400k a year- if you want your spouse to travel with you, you pay for it.  Many execs of Fortune 100 companies fly coach.  I will miss a grand total of zero of them.
    • Powerful article, thanks @RememberSchiff! Two parts of the article: "'The local councils are not independent,” said Los Angeles attorney Paul Mones, whose suit against the Boy Scouts of America a decade ago resulted in the release of the “Perversion Files” — details of alleged sexual abuse secretly kept by the Boy Scouts for decades — as well as a $19.9 million verdict for a former Scout who was abused by his Scout leader in the 1980s. 'Even though the local councils have their own corporations, they’re inextricably linked to the national,” Mones said. “The Boy Scouts of America has to approve the troop leaders. The Boy Scouts of America carries the retirement plans. Every year, the local councils have to apply for an annual charter, which is approved by the Boy Scouts of America. 'There’s a real overlap, a significant overlap,” Mones said. “To the extent they allege that they’re separate entities, that remains to be seen."” and..... "The Boy Scouts of America’s bankruptcy petition lists assets of at least $1 billion, and liabilities of up to that amount. "The Scout executives who received large compensation packages are among the creditors standing in line for money. "'This has been a boondoggle for decades, where insiders pay themselves million-dollar salaries with fabulous pension plans,” said Tim Kosnoff, an attorney also representing abuse victims. “It’s sickening to see. They’re paid more than any other not-for-profit in the country. This is an abusive organization in more ways than one."” ------------------------------ My thoughts:  - I watched my council's video response to the chapter 11 announcement.  It assured us that things are going to be just ducky, National itself and National's problems are far, far away, the council is independent, solvent, and will always be, and the council would continue to provide the world class service that we unit and district types have grown to know and expect.  Struck me as pie in the sky then, and even more so now. - National execs are (were) living high on the hog while victims were seeking recourse, and while the organization itself foundered.  Hubris. Well, for the commissioned BSA professionals of Irving TX, the gravy train is over. 
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