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Discussions for OA Members and those interested in Scouting's Honor Society. Also includes a private sub-forum for OA Members only.

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    • "Uniforms are not required in Scouting. They are just one of the methods of Scouting. There is no policy or requirement that a Scout wear a uniform to any event or meeting. You cannot refused a Scoutmaster Conference, Board of Review or rank advancement because a Scout is not in uniform." 4.2.3.1 Active Participation 8 …Units are free to establish additional expectations on uniforming, supplies for outings, payment of dues, parental involvement, etc., but these and any other standards extraneous to a level of activity shall not be considered in evaluating this requirement [active participation]. 8.0.0.4 Wearing the Uniform—or Neat in Appearance 16 It is preferred a Scout be in full field uniform for anyboard of review. As much of the uniform as the Scoutowns should be worn, and it should be as correct aspossible, with the badges worn properly. It may be theuniform as typically worn by the Scout’s troop, crew, orship. If wearing all or part of the uniform is impracticalfor whatever reason, the candidate should be cleanand neat in appearance and dressed appropriately,according to the Scout’s means, for the milestone markedby the occasion. Regardless of unit, district, or councilexpectations or rules, boards of review shall not rejectcandidates solely for reasons related to uniforming orattire, as long as they are dressed to the abovedescription. Candidates shall not be required topurchase uniforming or clothing to participate in aboard of review.   Neither the Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, the policy, nor the program applications may be added to or changed in any way unless approved by the National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America through its Pilots and Program Development Department.
    • Why is it that when someone likes a BSA policy, it's a hard-and-fast rule, but when someone dislikes a BSA policy, it is a loophole?
    • We are indeed discussing personal ideals. You just disagree with them so you prefer to denigrate them rather than discuss. My definition of weak leadership is someone who is more concerned about uniform inspections than whether scouts are, say, camping. I've been in that kind of unit, so that's why I hold that opinion. To me a perfect uniform is aspirational,  not something that becomes a barrier that prevents youth from participating. 
    • We were only given a 30 minute window to shop in the store. We wanted to take our interpreter out for dinner when we returned but we were told if we left we could not come back in.
    • Ego, LOL. There is no discussion here on idealism of developing character, just personal character denigrating for winning the last word. Must be a sign of the times, the forum used to be filled with intellectual discussions of  personal ideals. The irony is that pride is the general motivator for using character denigration as an argument to get the last word. TAHAWK, National created the loophole for hardship situations, not general practice. Refer to the ScoutHandbook, it doesn’t give the scout a choice. Wouldnt it be the prideful adult that would dictate otherwise?  Weak leaders use the loophole as a crutch. The wise Scoutmaster encourages Scouts to use the  Handbook for guidance in the direction of actions and decisions. The Handbook has no pride or prejudice like adults, just guidance for growing into adults of character. When allowed scouts will use their resources for their program.   Barry
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