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    • Update 9/24/2020:  After 27 days and 272 miles,  Camp Director Clint Buxton completed his fundraising hike and raised $30,000. Buxton had been conditioning throughout the summer by hiking Camel's Hump and other favorite trails. But suddenly, with less than two weeks to go, he found himself taking a crash course in social media and grass roots community organizing. Buxton quickly got up to speed and had a support team of friends and family behind him as he stepped onto the trail and adopted the trail name ‘Hawkeye’ in August. Along the way, dozens of Scout Packs and Troops linked up with Clint as he made his way toward the Canadian border. Others joined in virtually by hitting a local trail and posting their adventures with a ‘Flat Buxton’ cutout on social media using the #BuxtonHikesLT hashtag. More details at source: https://vermontbiz.com/news/2020/september/24/trail-magic-‘unemployed’-scout-camp-director’s-long-trail-trek-raises-30000
    • I'm not sure BSA actually has exclusive rights to all of the IP.  It certainly doesn't have the international rights.  There are many other countries who use the same IP in their boy scout programs.   BSA only has exclusive rights within the USA. A smart lawyer could argue that BSA is leasing the IP from the WOSM, and cannot transfer the IP to another entity without WOSM consent.  It could also be argued that the federal charter protection does not apply to IP that is "owned" by WOSM.    
    • Not literally.  If they adopted "Ford" or "Girl Scouts of America," they would not have the right to use those words.  As for the role of Bankruptcy Court in intellectual property issues, you might see: https://www.nycbar.org/pdf/report/Intelectual_Prpoerty_Assets.pdf https://www.wardandsmith.com/articles/intellectual-property-in-bankruptcy-an-overview#:~:text=Generally%2C intellectual property includes copyrights,losses to the debtor's creditors.
    • From a business sense, I do not see where the IP here holds much value or to who. The brand is tarnished and muddled, the program appeals to a small and declining segment of youth, and it has no IT assets to speak of -- no working or revenue driving website or portal, no functioning administrative interface, no real social media presence to drive marketing. It is producing a tired print publication in a world where most print publications have expired because they are too expensive to produce.  The actual advancement program and handbooks have value, but there are so many knock off programs out there and online, that it's not like you'd be buying truly proprietary material. The only brand I can see that still holds possible business value is the term "Eagle Scout." Some outdoors outfitter might want to stick that on a line of products. But otherwise I'm  thinking that BSA IP is probably going to stay right where it is. 
    • I hear you, but I think it would take more lawyering than a bankruptcy court judge is ready for.  I'm not even sure a bankruptcy court judge has the place to try and determine if it is operating legitimately as per it's congressional charter.  Other than extracting more assets from the BSA, why would they go down that path? If a bankruptcy court judge forced a sale of the IP, then I think that the decision would quickly get appealed.  Years in the appellate courts before there is any real resolution.
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