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    • If it jumps from $33 to $100, I see a lot of folks dropping.  Lots of families (and units) simply cannot handle that much of an increase.
    • In theory it does not, but in practice it is a facility that is not fully utilized, and takes resources from other areas.  In general it puts the organization at financial risk.  For a local unit, not so much impact until they see the update registration fee and may not realize that some portion of that is in fact a Summit Tax. Similar to a unit that goes all out for popcorn sales working to exceed last year, not necessarily a bad thing in general, but units, like organizations, only have so much bandwidth and human capital.  They all work on the sales and then other parts of the program suffer.  There must be a balance. When National has to move things, make events, and work to make Summit relevant, it's an issue.  Over time it will impact the outdoor program as there are only so many resource to go around
    • These sound like good things for a pack to use.  Can you not do this now?
    • I like a good rant as much as anyone, but how does this impact prioritizing an outdoor program?  If anything, providing more facilities for advanced outdoor programming is a good thing.  The location is within a day car drive for a very large percentage of the US population.  That would be good for encouraging more outdoor use.
    • Bring back the pioneering and Native American skills and games that were in the old Cub Program.   Let them play games that they can get filthy dirty in. Our fall hike was based on the old Bear leaf ID elective and the kids had a blast stomping around to identify them with an arborist dad.   One Grampa in the group found paw prints near the water and the cubs were trying to ID them back at the luncheon with the old stalking/tracking MB books the troop in town keeps on hand. 
        parents need to let the youth fail - fail at making a fire, or a meal or having their tent set up so it doesn’t leak.   It’s not like they’re being sent into the woods solo to fail - there are friends and adults there so it doesn’t get dangerous. 
        STEM/STEAM is good but they get that at school. What about letting the kids make the connection from ‘old’ skills to the STEMy stuff themselves. 
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