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    • @T2Eagle you need to balance utility against probability. The utility in this case is freedom from blunt force trauma. The probability is not just that of a boy falling from 25' if he is in a trained/controlled setting. But the probability that, not offering a controlled setting with safety instruction, the boy will put himself in situations where he is on a folding chair climbing up to nail his first story between two pines,  then climbing up to the second story from the first, then the third story from there. No brain bucket, no harness, no formal stress test, no training regarding fasteners, no railings/ladders in the design ... the boy's dad caught him before the roof (at 30') was suspended! Aside from whatever percentage of boys who bore of scouts because they are as rambunctious as my relative. American boys are entering the work-force worldwide with no training. Not all employers are OSHA compliant. If a young man has no experience building safely at altitude, he'll have no sense that he should push back at an unscrupulous boss. BSA isn't making boys safer. It's passing them off on others who could care less.
    • My church has a youth group - so do many.  That doesn't prevent the kids from being interested in Scouting. I get that in general the LDS community is more insular.  But don't LDS kids play baseball, soccer, fencing, etc... BTW - I'm not suggesting that Scouting will get a large percentage of LDS kids - just wondering if it will be similar in number to other denominations.
    • I do enjoy district and council level training, I may just focus on that and have my son move troops.
    • Thanks for the feedback.  I should clarify that the worksheets are not for checking off requirements.  The boys actually use the Scout handbook for signing off on requirements.  The worksheets are  reflection questions like: "I will continue to show scout spirit by" (fill in the blank). "What did you learn from the Drug, Alcohol or Tobacco program?"  (several lines for answer) "Which requirements for this rank did you like best and why?"  (several lines for answer) I have no problem with the SM discussing these types of things with the boys at the Scoutmaster's Conference.  But requiring them to write out their answers to these types of questions seems like an additional (and in my opinion) unnecessary requirement.    
    • I concur. A key deterrent for LDS families will be the Sunday activity program of many non-LDS packs and troops. We actually investigated a non-LDS pack for my son back in the day. They had an attractive and energized program, but every premier event (Pinewood Derby, Raingutter Regatta, Rocket Launch, etc) was scheduled on Sundays. Regretfully, we had to say no.
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