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    • Thanks for the feedback.  The scout will be visiting to check out our Troop.  I don't  plan to contact the other SM at this time; however, I may soon.  His feeder pack AOL den is also reaching out to possibly join our Troop.  Single scouts moving between Troops happens from time to time.  Entire dens, while that occurs, could flag that he needs to reach out and determine what the concern is.  For now, I'll let the single scout decision play out.
    • Do you know if this was local to the Southern Region or did similar changes happen in other regions? Answer:  I do not know if this is going one in other regions.  There is a big meeting in Dallas today during which a number of decisions and announcements will b e made.  The first hearing on the case takes place today as well.  So, we should learn of some additional developments on the national scene very soon.   
    • Well, after a career in the Marines as an MP, I assure you that I  have met some drunken sailors.  I can't figure out exactly what's going on.  According to the announcement BSA does not own the local councils.   So......I guess that means the council charges certain fees to the individual (which have doubled) so they can pay a fee to the BSA so that the individual can use a brand and four campgrounds for which a fee is paid.  Building is going strong at the Summit with a massive new learning center including classrooms, a dining facility, lodging, and a 300 seat auditorium.  There are a few 5 star apartments near a building with glass walls that can be covered with a hydraulic awning, and a presidential helicopter pad just in case a president wants to come there.  When asked how it is being paid for the standard answer seems to be "with cash"...............hmmmmmmm....................that's a lot of food for thought. 
    • True, but when the BSA tried to cover things up, can we blame that on society wide ills? If, instead, the BSA had brought it out and explained what it was doing to solve the problem they would have a lot more credibility now. The mindset should have always been that a proven abuse results in a ton of very visible repair going on: Helping the abused youth, prosecuting the abuser, and understanding how it happened to improve the unit, the council, and the BSA. Anyone hiding an event should have harsh consequences as well. I just wish there were some concrete numbers put on when these abuses and coverups happened. My impression is it dropped in the 90s when better protections were put in. But how much? Honestly, they need to convince me as well. If there were still coverups going on after my son started in 2001 then I'll be angry. After going through the training I assumed the process of training and reacting to abuse was all cleaned up. Was it? If so, the idea of don't throw out the baby with the bath water holds. If not, I'm assuming there are going to be a lot of properties sold.
    • Yes, but what is alleged in the complaints and what position would the excess liability carrier take?   At best, the defense will be offered under a "Reservation of Rights" if intentional wrongdoing is alleged.  Punitive damages will likely not be covered.   "Lewis v. Boys Scouts of America et al. [16] was a case filed in Multnomah County, Oregon, by Kerry Lewis, a former member of the BSA who alleged having been abused by former scout leader Timur Dykes in the 1980s.[17] In 1983, Timur Dykes had confessed to the local BSA co-ordinator that he had molested 17 Boy Scouts,[18] but was allowed to continue working with the Scouts where, attorneys argued, he subsequently abused Lewis.[7][19] In 2010, the jury on the case held in favor of the plaintiff and ordered that the Scouts pay $18.5 million as punishment for their actions—the largest punitive damages awarded to a single plaintiff in a child abuse case in the US.[7]" WIKI   "Insurers Balk It’s also in court with its insurance companies, which argue that they shouldn’t have to pay claims related to abuse that the Scouts could have reasonably prevented. BSA and several councils sued the Hartford Accident and Indemnity Co. and First State Insurance Co. in Texas for $13.5 million in June, after the insurers argued that BSA’s own records showed the organization hadn’t done enough to warn or protect kids. These weren’t unrelated incidents, according to the insurers, but all the result of the organization’s failure to warn parents of the risk. In a different legal dispute, insurers are refusing to pay for sex-abuse settlements and legal defense fees, arguing that the events weren’t accidents, or even unforeseen." https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2018/12/20/512554.htm
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