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  2. mrkstvns

    Troop Trailer Stolen

    A Boy Scout troop in Kansas had their trailer stolen. BTW: The trailer was unmarked --- no logos, no troop identifiers. Story: https://www.kmbc.com/article/lenexa-boy-scout-troop-has-trailer-stolen-before-big-trip/29820652#
  3. RememberSchiff

    National Leadership, Surbaugh Leave of Absense

    Nov 4: "Within the next several weeks, the National Executive Committee will identify an interim leader for the national organization. " Scoutingnewsroom , National Leadership: https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/about-the-bsa/national-leadership/ lists four Assistant CSE's as follows: John Mosby — Development. Al Lambert – National Director of Outdoor Adventures, Patrick Sterrett – National Director of Field Service Mark Logemann – National Director of Support Services Seemingly the above are the leading candidates for "interim CSE" , but another person may be selected.
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  5. If you think I'm posting one of those gigantic trophies... No, not happening! At the end, you'll get a certificate emailed to you with the position your team came in overall. And if you win, eternal pride and glory, obviously. Which you'll obviously accept with suitable humility.
  6. Cambridgeskip

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    I like to tell my scouts the story of the only time I've put someone in the recovery position for real, the moral of the story being don't make any assumptions. It was about 15 years ago now. It was late in the evening and myself and Mrs Cambridge Skip wrere walking home when we came a cross a man slumped on his hands and knees in the gutter. It was a busy road so we helped him onto the pavement. He was very unsteady on his feet and sluring his speach to the point that he was incomprehensible. We were also right outside a pub. Our assumption (and we all know what that is the mother of!) was that he was drunk. We sat him down and were debating whether to call him a taxi or the police when he slumped forward unconscious on the ground. We put him in the recovery position and called an ambulance. The emergency operator also called the police (I believe that's standard if the patient is believed to be drunk) and they arrived first. One of the police took a look in the man's pockets and what did he find? Insulin! It looks like he was in some kind of diabetic shock. They bundled him in the back of the car and took him straight to hospital. The moral of course being don't make any assumptions, especially if you didn't witness what actually happened to the patient!
  7. @Onslow, my guess is you're getting a response you didn't expect. Hang in there, you're at least trying. It sounds like this culture you're seeing is new to you. Don't be so quick to judge. Keep listening and watching. There is goodness everywhere. If there's anyone that needs scouts it's these kids in the town you're describing. Nobody else is trying. So it would be great if you would. To those that see this as the usual tribalism in our country at the moment, all I can say is never waste a problem.
  8. SSScout

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    Flying? When I was maybe 6(?) dad and I went on a 'guy" day out to the Frederick County Fair. I saw a helicopter land in the big field, and being crazy about airplanes, we went over to see it. I found out later it was a Bell H47G, with the big plexi glass cover for the pilot. For a price, you could go for a ride ! Dad and I strapped in, and man, I still remember that ride ! Unfortunately, my poor eyesight kept me away from a pilot's license, but aviation still became important to me...… Help that young aviatrix learn to fly the REAL way.... Lift, Thrust, Drag,,,, Gravity she already knows.
  9. Liz

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    At cub scout camp this year they had the First Aid station right next to the fire making station. I happened to know that they had an open packet of burn gel sitting on the table because someone earlier had needed it. They showed it to the kids as they were talking about burn first aid. After my daughter finished up her first aid session, we went over to try our hand at making a fire on a sand table. We were only allowed one match, and mine broke, and since it's been a long time since I've used a regular match I have forgotten how easy it is to burn one's self on it and without thinking I tried to strike the broken match (honestly thinking I wouldn't get it to strike anyway) when it flared up and burned my finger which was too close to the match head. I asked my daughter to go over and ask one of the Boy Scouts at the first aid table for some burn gel. Which she did, but was completely ignored. She came back empty handed. So I called over to the Scout and said "Hey, I burned my finger, can I get some burn gel?" And he looked at me and proceeded to completely ignore me. I then walked over to him, held out my finger, and said "I KNOW you have burn gel over here. I saw it like 5 minutes ago. And it's already open. Please give me some, and while you're at it, may I please have a band-aid?" He stared at me blankly but eventually pulled out the open pouch, put some on my finger, and reluctantly handed me a band-aid. Seriously. The burn was small but it HURT and it shouldn't be that hard to get a Scout with a first aid kit to help you out. Yes, I was being stupid, but still. SSScout - You'd better hope my littlest one is never in your unit. LOL. She's going to turn any Scout leader's hair grey overnight. Yesterday after she landed flat on her face on the living room floor I had to tell her, "You cannot fly. Please stop trying." She answered. "Oh yeah. I forgotted. I was just trying to fly like SuperGirl." This is not the first time I've had to remind her that she cannot fly. She is almost 5. 🤦‍♀️
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  11. SSScout

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    Again, the three words no Scoutmaster wants to hear: ""HEY ! WATCH THIS ! ""
  12. Sentinel947

    Scouting in Blighted Communities

    Another book that I found very insightful was Hillbilly Elegy by J.D Vance. Strikes close to home for me, as I live in the area near where Vance grew up.
  13. le Voyageur

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    Day 4 of a bike trek we were headed into Angel Camp, one of the groups more daring riders lost control, careened into and flipped over a barb wire fence landing on a fair size Timber Rattler. Luck was on his side - it was a dry strike so no venom. However, we took him into Angel Camp, found something called a Medical center, not much more than a first aid station that deals with minor stuff such as colds and tummy aches. Watching the nurse go deer in the headlights when told I had a kid that was snake bit was priceless, all she could say was, "we've got no protocols for snakebite!". Assuring her it was a dry strike, and all that she had to deal was to clean the area, pop him with a tetanus shot and hand him an Rx for a course of antibiotics and that he would be fine. While that was happening, we got ahold of the mom back at base, an ER trauma nurse and told her of the event, after getting control of herself from a fit of roaring giggles, simply said to bring him back at the end of the week....
  14. Another factor is Darwinian - those that can escape do so, leaving those who cannot. Read Night Comes to the Cumberlands: A Biography of a Depressed Area.
  15. TAHAWK

    What are the BSA priorities??

    He was once a "rising star," but came a cropper elsewhere. We are a last chance posting for ambitions to rise to, or very near, the top.
  16. ParkMan

    What are the BSA priorities??

    Program, program, program! Sounds like that Council Exec is a big waste of space.
  17. dkurtenbach

    What are the BSA priorities??

    Sounds like that Council Executive has given up. Of course traditional Scouting still works -- at the unit level, if you have leaders who know what they are doing and an active program, especially an active outdoor program. Traditional Scouting isn't working nearly as well at organizational levels above the unit because the layers of bureaucracy above the unit level aren't adding much value to unit Scouting and instead are a drag on the movement.
  18. Sentinel947

    Scouting in Blighted Communities

    I've always thought that underdeveloped rural areas face many of the same challenges as impoverished inner city areas. Crime, drugs, poor schools, broken families and few economic opportunities. As others have already said, there are people and leaders of character in every community that are fighting the good fight. You need to find those people and partner with them. That starts with not going about it in a judgmental manner. These people may have different lifestyles and challenges in their lives than you do, but that's not always a reflection on their character and capability.
  19. The "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" movie "Deliverance" predates the current constitutional crisis by some decades. One might recall how President Carter was ragged on by the Eastern and Western elites of his own party until, in his old age, he became a leading attacker of Bush the Younger. One would think that if working with certain people is terrifying, you would simply not do it.
  20. I am not sure which end of the "gay issue" you mean. Around here Dale caused packs previously sponsored by parent-teacher organizations and meeting in elementary schools to have to find new accommodations. In our district alone, the reversal of stance caused no less than 4 churches to decided scouting no longer aligned with their values. One of these churches sponsored a pack, troop, and crew. Granted, only one openly told the BSA that it was why they were leaving, but the leadership was pretty clear with their congregations that it was the reason.
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  22. Eagledad

    Scouting in Blighted Communities

    I think this is a reaction to the present political drama with president because I’ve seen a couple of anti rural stories this week using the same language. The bigoted tone is the result of rural communities unchanging support for the president. Barry
  23. RememberSchiff

    What are the BSA priorities??

    Yes, imagine if a credit card and email address become required to join...billed monthly with automatic renewal
  24. RememberSchiff

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    Maybe the old Google, but a Scout is a friend to all. https://www.sciencealert.com/how-dead-girl-paris-ended-up-most-kissed-lips-in-history-l-inconnue-de-la-seine-resusci-anne-cpr-annie-death-mask
  25. le Voyageur

    Teaching First Aid Stories

    For a great story around the evening campfire, ask the lads which of them have ever kissed the dead lips of the young lassy known as the "L'Inconnue de la Seine"? Google is your friend.....
  26. TAHAWK

    What are the BSA priorities??

    Our Council Executive: "Traditional Scouting does not work today." "Scouters are not happy with the quality of our training. We need to cut back on training." (Apply that logic to meals at Summer Camp.) Eliminated FOS ?("Why should we have to ask every year?) in favor of a program where "friends of Scouting" are asked to authorize monthly automatic withdrawals from a bank account - like automatic bill paying for cell phone service. General fund raising down 1/3 year over year. Eliminated districts and set up "Service Areas" run by "professionals," typically with under two years involvement in Scouting. Roundtable attendance down 45%, and falling. Ninety minutes of announcements and fund raising does not seem especially attractive. I do agree that there is absolutely no reason to blame National for all our problems.
  27. dkurtenbach

    Can private organizations like BSA discriminate?

    Yes. Religious institutions. And most of them have "in-house" youth programs of some kind. It makes perfect sense that religious institutions would want to leverage Scouting programs to expand the activity options for their youth while keeping those youth in a values-based program consistent with the values of the religious organization. And it makes perfect sense that BSA would want to partner with organizations that have a lot of youth in order to efficiently grow and maintain membership. And it made sense that once those religious organizations became major BSA constituencies, BSA had strong incentives to stay on the good side of those organizations. We have to keep in mind that Baden-Powell had a lot to say about religion being integral to Scouting. BSA's Declaration of Religious Principle was adopted early in BSA's history, and is consistent with the social norms of the early 20th Century. And discrimination against homosexuals was socially acceptable until only recently and is still the subject of legal disputes. Still, BSA's opposition on moral grounds appeared extreme because BSA was considered a patriotic community organization, not a religious organization. Further, BSA's claim that homosexuality was not "Clean" seemed particularly odd and offensive. Remember that BSA marketing tagline, "America is returning to the values that Scouting never left"? Did BSA really believe that? I think the real problem was that BSA was too slow in realizing that it didn't matter whether it had the right to discriminate, because it was actually dependent on public support, not its religious partners.
  28. ParkMan

    Scouting in Blighted Communities

    Ok - gotcha. Can you please provide some additional context here? How are you faced with this question? Are you an existing unit volunteer who is struggling to make it work? Are you exploring the idea of starting a new program? Do you currently live in an area like this? I get the impression that you are either very frustrated or simply unhappy about challenges of the area you live in. Any particular context you can add here? Thanks!
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    • A Boy Scout troop in Kansas had their trailer stolen. BTW:  The trailer was unmarked --- no logos, no troop identifiers.   Story: https://www.kmbc.com/article/lenexa-boy-scout-troop-has-trailer-stolen-before-big-trip/29820652# 
    • Nov 4: "Within the next several weeks, the National Executive Committee will identify an interim leader for the national organization. " Scoutingnewsroom , National Leadership: https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/about-the-bsa/national-leadership/   lists four Assistant CSE's as follows:  John Mosby — Development. Al Lambert – National Director of Outdoor Adventures, Patrick Sterrett – National Director of Field Service Mark Logemann – National Director of Support Services Seemingly the above are the leading candidates for "interim CSE" , but another person may be selected. 
    • If you think I'm posting one of those gigantic trophies... No, not happening! At the end, you'll get a certificate emailed to you with the position your team came in overall. And if you win, eternal pride and glory, obviously. Which you'll obviously accept with suitable humility.
    • I like to tell my scouts the story of the only time I've put someone in the recovery position for real, the moral of the story being don't make any assumptions. It was about 15 years ago now. It was late  in the evening and myself and Mrs Cambridge Skip wrere walking home when we came a cross a man slumped on his hands and knees in the gutter. It was a busy road so we helped him onto the pavement. He was very unsteady on his feet and sluring his speach to the point that he was incomprehensible. We were also right outside a pub. Our assumption (and we all know what that is the mother of!) was that he was drunk. We sat him down and were debating whether to call him a taxi or the police when he slumped forward unconscious on the ground. We put him in the recovery position and called an ambulance. The emergency operator also called the police (I believe that's standard if the patient is believed to be drunk) and they arrived first. One of the police took a look in the man's pockets and what did he find? Insulin! It looks like he was in some kind of diabetic shock. They bundled him in the back of the car and took him straight to hospital. The moral of course being don't make any assumptions, especially if you didn't witness what actually happened to the patient!
    • @Onslow, my guess is you're getting a response you didn't expect. Hang in there, you're at least trying. It sounds like this culture you're seeing is new to you. Don't be so quick to judge. Keep listening and watching. There is goodness everywhere. If there's anyone that needs scouts it's these kids in the town you're describing. Nobody else is trying. So it would be great if you would. To those that see this as the usual tribalism in our country at the moment, all I can say is never waste a problem.  
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