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  2. bsaggcmom

    Merit badge sash

    The young man in the photo must not be taking advantage of the back of his sashes for badges. When my son was in Scouts we got 58 (rows of 3 until the point, then 2 or 1 in a row) badges on the front of his sash. By extrapolation a large sized sash (personally I feel these are the only ones that should be sold, but that's another topic) can fit 116 badges and still leave a strip at the top of the shoulder for a sash pin.
  3. DuctTape

    troop meeting structure/rules

    I reiterate my previous opinion. This is NOT a PLC decision, but one that should be made at the Patrol level. Each patrol needs to decide how their patrol will operate during patrol meetings/activities. The PLC should be a place where the PLs can report on their progress as a patrol, seek advice from other PLs and make TROOP level decisions. The PLC should not dictate how a patrol decides to operate.
  4. qwazse

    troop meeting structure/rules

    Rules of order are next-level. Your PLC should be proud for even trying to use them. I wouldn't ask for a recount based on technically. If some PL's felt left out, they could move for a vote of no confidence in the SPL. But, it is probably better to just wait until the next election cycle and see if candidates bring up these changes as justification for election/reelection.
  5. Beginning in February 1927, Charles E. Wood, Special Deputy Regional Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA), along with the Charlottesville Rotary Club led the effort to establish the Lewis and Clark Area Boy Scout Council #599 in Albemarle and the adjacent counties. Continue Reading Here...
  6. Certainly when I was a scout, the SMs and ASMs were nowhere to be found on my BoRs. My dad was on the committee, and they would be held after the troop meetings. The SM would go upstairs to give his report, and any boys waited downstairs, he would come back down and then the boys "went up" for their BoRs, one at a time.
  7. ParkMan

    Merit badge sash

    Just thinking out load here, but wouldn't it be better for a Scout to wear the uniform as proscribed and simply wear as many merit badges as possible on it? I mean no disrespect, but isn't vioating the uniform rules to wear two sashes (whether double wide, one on top of each other, or bandolier) an example of a Scout breaking the rules for their own self interest? i.e., "I know that the unform rule says one sash, but I earned these awards and so I think I'm entitled to do it."
  8. Eagle94-A1

    Merit badge sash

    I was going to say the sash pin, but those look like Eagle Palms to me.
  9. Sentinel947

    Merit badge sash

    It looks weird, also not to make poke fun a teenager, but what does he have on his right shoulder? They look like like brass stars..
  10. Sentinel947

    Loveland Castle, Chateau Larouche (OH)

    I live in that council, the Castle is fairly close to our council camp. I have never been, I'll see what I can do as far as hunting down more information. Found a bit of info here: http://www.lovelandcastle.com/
  11. Sentinel947

    What can SM do for son's advancement?

    As long as I can remember (admittedly not that long, 2011 or so.) ASM's were not permitted to be on Board of Reviews.
  12. Is this a recent change? Last I remember reading this I would have sworn that while the Scoutmaster was specifically not permitted to be on the Board of Review, the participation of ASMs was only discouraged and could be permitted if no other option was available.
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  14. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but in the Troop my older kids were a part of, we had no rules about this but we made a conscious effort to minimize the number of merit badges, especially the Eagle required ones, that were taught and signed off on by a Scout's own parent. Every committee member was a merit badge counselor for as many Eagle required merit badges as we could attest to (or gain) competence in, so although some of the Scouts might have had one or two non-required badges counseled by his own parent, the vast majority were not.
  15. Can you believe a youth leader with a some youth help, built a castle for his group? During WW1, Harry Delos Andrews was stationed as an hospital administrator in Chateau de la Roche in southern France. The posting left a lasting impression. "In the 1920s, one of Andrews’ projects was his Boy Scout-esque troop, which he named the Knights of the Golden Trail (KOGT). The group often camped along the shore of the Little Miami River, which bisects Loveland. The two plots where the group stayed were donated by families of the scouts, who obtained the land through a subscription promotion held by the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper. The KOGT spent so much time on the site that they began to leave their camping gear there, leading Andrews to want to build two stone structures as shelters. Of course, the combination of knights and stone abodes led Andrews to decide that a castle needed to be built." The Knights of the Golden Trail were said to be like a boy scout troop but based on the Ten Commandments and a Knights Code of Chivalry. Andrews refused to sell castle to Elvis Presley, and ultimately willed the castle and its ground to the Knights of the Golden Trail, who maintain it to this day. "Nothing that God ever made on the earth is more awe inspiring and heart warming than the sight of a noble youth just budding into manhood, Any man of high ideals who wishes to help save civilization is invited to become a member of the Knights of the Golden Trail." - Harry Andrews More at sources: http://mentalfloss.com/article/68755/ohios-loveland-castle-was-hand-built-midwestern-medievalist http://www.weirdus.com/states/ohio/personalized_properties/loveland_castle/index.php https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/9795 I could find no current contact information for the Knights of the Golden Trail.
  16. I would not put it into the by-laws. I would, as the GTA states, designate persons who you know are trained and understand advancement as a method and have embraced your vision of the troop. In other words, no blanket "prohibitions" instead use specific designations. Utilize your ASM corps, and PLC as the field to which you designate. A brand new scout parent who is a first year ASM is likely not to be designated by me as someone who could sign off any scout requirement. It is vital the adult understands the advancement method and knows the expectations of it. IMO, to be designated by the SM : 1. the adult learns, 2. the adult is tested, 3. the adult is designated 4. the adults may sign off.
  17. Ranman328

    What can SM do for son's advancement?

    In our Troop we allow First Class and above Scouts to sign off on First Class and below Scouts Rank Advancement. We feel it helps with Leadership. We do have a discussion with all new First Class Scouts to ensure they follow the "Describe", "Show", "Demonstrate" instructions for making certain the Scouts completed the requirement.
  18. mrkstvns

    Merit badge sash

    Agreed. Even though the rules state that only 1 merit badge sash should be worn at a time, the double-wide approach really looks dorky compared to the scouts who blow off the rule and just wear 2 sashes, bandolier style. It's over the top, but at least it kind of looks symmetrical instead of looking like a blanket.
  19. Ranman328

    What can SM do for son's advancement?

    I think when it is all done, you will be glad you did. You also get to experience those campouts and events all over again. I know I would have regretted not doing it. Just enjoy the moment.
  20. First I've heard about something like this.....sounds like a cool (and profitable) idea! https://buckrail.com/boy-scouts-antler-auction-rakes-in-big-money-for-racks/
  21. mrkstvns

    Best comfort items & traditions for summer camp

    I think it depends on the terrain where your camp is located. If I were in a mountainous region, or very rocky terrain, I would definitely prefer the boots, but if I was in a softer, flatter, or forested area (like maybe Northern Tier), then I would prefer something lighter --- like maybe your Nikes.
  22. mrkstvns

    Baloo Training

    Agree with jjlash. BALOO and IOLS are not necessarily one and the same. When I did BALOO, it was a few hours, mostly classroom, and definitely centered on family camping. IOLS was centered around the outdoor skills that a scout needs for Tenderfoot through First Class advancement: knots, first aid, map and compass, knife and axe, cooking ---- basically everything that a SM or ASM will be asked to sign off for a scout over his first year or two in a troop. The IOLS was practical camp skills taught in a camp setting. A much better class than BALOO... (Besides, even if some material might be repeated, a little reinforcement never hurts...)
  23. No disrespect intended, Carlos, but you would benefit greatly from reading and embracing the "Guide to Advancement". Any time you create a policy of any kind, type, or form, you make things harder on your scouts and create unnecessary problems for your scouters. Take qwayze's suggestions to heart and you'll be a wiser leader who enables his scouts to succeed.
  24. an_old_DC

    What can SM do for son's advancement?

    Why would you propose adding something to troop bylaws that is in direct contradiction to the Guide to Advancement?
  25. I would not put into by-laws anything about advancement except that you all will comply with BSA's Guide to Advancement and maximize the opportunities for youth leaders to sign off on requirements under the direction of the Scoutmaster. You could add that any counselor failing to teach the entire content of an MB's requirements and review each scouts completion of those requirements on an individual basis will be black-listed from the troop and never again recommended to counsel any other scouts in the troop, district, or counsel. Don't worry about the 'semblance of evil when what matters is evil personified.
  26. Thanks all. Am inclined to not allow Adult Leaders to check off their kid's requirements except for perhaps service hours. Will get feedback from Troop Committee and put into bylaws. I think its important to have this sort of policy in the troop bylaws, but I suppose that is another topic.
  27. Son #2 asked me to be his Eagle Project advisor. Aside from that, I didn't sign-off with Sons and Daughter because -- although I knew that I was best at many of the requirements -- I fondly go through my old book from time to time, and cherish those PL signatures. I wanted them to have that same sense of a panoply of leaders that I had as a scout. So, my thinking: If someone else is the better expert, send your son to him. If he is almost as good, but you think you think that person deserves a significant role in your son's life, send your son to him. If your son knows your the best at that requirement, and asks you to help him with it, dive in. As other's said, you wont regret it.
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    • The young man in the photo must not be taking advantage of the back of his sashes for badges. When my son was in Scouts we got 58 (rows of 3 until the point, then 2 or 1 in a row) badges on the front of his sash. By extrapolation a large sized sash (personally I feel these are the only ones that should be sold, but that's another topic) can fit 116 badges and still leave a strip at the top of the shoulder for a sash pin.
    • I reiterate my previous opinion. This is NOT a PLC decision, but one that should be made at the Patrol level. Each patrol needs to decide how their patrol will operate during patrol meetings/activities. The PLC should be a place where the PLs can report on their progress as a patrol, seek advice from other PLs and make TROOP level decisions. The PLC should not dictate how a patrol decides to operate. 
    • Rules of order are next-level. Your PLC should be proud for even trying to use them. I wouldn't ask for a recount based on technically. If some PL's felt left out, they could move for a vote of no confidence in the SPL. But, it is probably better to just wait until the next election cycle and see if candidates bring up these changes as justification for election/reelection.
    • Beginning in February 1927, Charles E. Wood, Special Deputy Regional Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA), along with the Charlottesville Rotary Club led the effort to establish the Lewis and Clark Area Boy Scout Council #599 in Albemarle and the adjacent counties. Continue Reading Here...
    • Certainly when I was a scout, the SMs and ASMs were nowhere to be found on my BoRs. My dad was on the committee, and they would be held after the troop meetings. The SM would go upstairs to give his report,  and any boys waited downstairs, he would come back down and then the boys "went up" for their BoRs, one at a time.
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