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  2. Myriad of issues here, but the headline about fighting changes to state’s Hidden Predator Act is not favorable to the program - the Boy Scouts said they “strongly support certain parts of HB 605, which would reform the civil statute of limitations for child abuse giving survivors more time to pursue justice. We do not support it in its current form, however, because it does not strengthen efforts that experts agree can help keep children safe and includes provisions that would hinder the ability of youth-serving organizations to protect the children they serve.” http://www.myajc.com/news/crime--law/boy-scouts-among-groups-fighting-changes-state-hidden-predator-act/lJ5sDKg4tROfpQf9abQcAK/
  3. Storage ideas

    I'd be surprised if the district would...but not terribly surprised if you found another unit willing to help....although I can't imagine that being overly convenient. OH, i remembered the other thing the pack had to store.... a couple rain gutters I bought and donated to the pack for a simple regatta pack meeting. I wonder if they were ever used again?? That was a loud and high energy pack meeting Everything else we had lived in the small pack trailer. I'm still struggling to think of much that the troop has to store out of the trailer. The only thing I can think of is the troop flag and the log that has holes drilled to hold candles for their COH. I never understood the scouts liking that ceremony...I suspect it was mom invented, and mom encouraged.
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  5. New merit badge idea?

    @walk in the woods....Stegasaurus Husbandry? The neighbors complained about all the noise on friday night.
  6. Personal Scouting Goals

    I had to work hard to pass the swim test too. Made me more sympathetic to the youth who struggle and it was good for the boys to see the old guys had challenges too. I too had some Scouting goals....I had to lose weight to participate (my doc holds that annual physical over my head every year ) and doing 60 miles on the AT was a real physical challenge. I am a slow bit consistent hiker (hence the 'Turtle' in the handle) always bringing up the rear. It can be a humbling experience but I believe their is great virtue in humility and it pays off in authenticity when I am out with some of the boys. Another goal for me was to make Scoutmaster training at Woodruff SR. I had to be persistent over a couple of years to get a slot the week I was there but it really benefited me as a Scouter. I am very proud of my training patch, probably as proud as some of my academic or career achievements. It reminds me that some of the "requirements" can be a personal challenge for some boys and it varies by individual --some it is organizational, mental, inter-relational, physical, or phobias. Sorry for ramble @5thGenTexan...Scout On!
  7. Sad sign of the times

    I feel the same about dangerous people. Come election time, we often hear that the US has more incarcerated/institutionalized than any other nation, perhaps too many of certain "classifications" and not enough of other "classifications".
  8. Sad sign of the times

    Actually, I don't, up to a point. I know, all those guns would happily sit in a drawer or cupboard and not do any harm to anyone. And yes, it's way more complicated that that, sadly.
  9. New merit badge idea?

    UK used to have a Mining badge, probably not going to make a comeback...different times... "A Scout must have a general knowledge of one particular branch of the mining industry, such as coal, iron or other mineral, with the special dangers involved, and safeguards against them, and must have worked below the surface for not less than six months."
  10. Personal Scouting Goals

    I think it's really great that you are taking up the challenge to pass the swim test. Your experience will really help you to be a coach and cheerleader to the Scouts who will need a boost to complete their own test.
  11. I don't think so. My point is that there are so many boys who don't make a successful transition from cub scout to boy scout, that they are being ill served by unit leaders who see that transition as the main goal of the last two years of cub scouts. So, the numbers do matter. I am pretty confident that my statement is correct. It is less than half.
  12. The thing is, statistically and technically, you are incorrect. If you check the national averages, the majority of boys who are in Cub Scouts do in fact continue on to Boy Scouts. No it isn't 100%, but it is more than half, so ... that is the definition of MOST. A majority. The larger portion. The bigger slice of the pie. Trying to push the idea that "most kids who like cub scouts end up not liking boy scouts" is an unfortunate commentary on your experiences for which I am indeed sorry, but it does your position no good to try and force an idea that objectively isn't so. I understand both your point and your sentiments, but you cannot factually claim that "most of them won't" move on. Perhaps explaining the factors which influence those who do not progress, rather than basing your argument on the quantity of boys who do not, might be a more effective way to illustrate your point.
  13. Personal Scouting Goals

    You have to make it fun for you somehow.
  14. I think it's a good idea. I can see leadership in coaxing people into donating old machines, testing, reassembling, loading software, and also teaching people how to use the computers. Linux is your friend. It will run on any old computer. There are linux user groups all over that can help.
  15. You've completely lost me on the dreamer comments. I have no idea what you're saying. Yes, my unit opposes OA because of the cultural appropriation issue, but I can't see how that has any relevance to this conversation. I am all for letting boys choose between scouting and sports. I don't have any preference for which program they choose. One way or the other, it's fine with me. I think I have made that clear.
  16. The following is what I came up with last night. This began with thinking about planning for next year when my Tigers are Wolves and I just went crazy. Thoughts? I have never been a goal setter, just never got the hang of it. I guess I couldn't see far enough ahead to make real goals. When my daughter was born in 2008 we decided I was going to be the one to stay home, so I have gotten in a rut since then, not doing much aside from hanging around the house. Last fall the boy came home from school wanting to join Cub Scouts after the talk they had at school. Not long after I "joined" cub scouts too. My anxiety has reached new levels since then going to scary Roundtables and being front and center for den meetings. BUT, I feel I have done surprisingly well connecting with my Tigers and communicating well with the parents. HUGE accomplishments for me. At our Blue and Gold over the weekend I even survived being in front of EVERYONE without collapsing. Today I started thinking about how and when I really need to start planning what I am going to do next year with we start the Wolf program. Which in turn lead to Scouting goals that I can make. This year (May I think) I will complete BALOO and other courses, not sure what all that weekend will cover, but it is more than just BALOO. I will also complete an Adult / Child CPR/AED First aid course with certification. Next Year I am going to make every effort to go to Wood Badge. I am a non-swimmer, this was a big limitation when I was in Boy Scouts. To that end I will do what needs to be done so that I can pass the BSA swim test. I don't really care if I swim recreationally, but I will make it a personal priority to pass that swim test. My son will be a Wolf next year, and although it shouldn't take that long I have 4 years to achieve my next goal. I will at the very least complete the requirements for the Scout through First Class Badge. I know I can't earn the badges, but that does not mean I can't do the work. These goals will help me in Scouting as well as become a healthier happier person.
  17. EBOR question

    With the exception of his brother and 2 others, one of my Eagles didn't use any Scouts in the troop. He wanted to do something for his church, and got members of his youth group there involved since their families would benefit.
  18. I am going try and go on a tangent. Oldest is at the stage where he needs to figure out a service project for Eagle. His plan is to finish the Eagle Required MBs this summer, then do the project in 2019. I told him this morning I know he wants to do his project next summer, but he needs to start coming up with ideas for a project. He smiled at me, and I knew he had an idea. SO I asked what it was. He wants to take old, out of date computers, refurbish them, and give them to local organizations that help people get back on their feet. Apparently he saw a Youtuber do something similar, except with new computers, not refurbs. My initial thought was, THIS IS CRAZY! {emphasis). But what I said was, "remember the purpose of the project is to show leadership. You need to plan, organize and execute the project.How are you going to do that?" His response was rational and doable. Ijust hope itpasses muster withthe PTB
  19. Age card? Stating our experiences is a card? How does someone with a “anti-OA” card know what’s best for a dreamer? Scouters should spend less effort telling what Scouts can and cannot do, and instead a build a program that encourages more dreams and let’s the Scouts choose their path. Barry
  20. I probably have about the same amount of experience, so playing the age card doesn't work on me. It is not a question of optimism or pessimism. It is about wanting what's best for each kid. Sometimes that's scouting, and sometimes it's not. Boys might love flag-football, but not like full-contact football. Boys might love little league, but not like playing baseball when the pitches get faster and the base-lines get longer. It happens all the time. The same is true of scouting. Many boys who like cub scouts will never enjoy boy scouting.
  21. Lol, I have too much actual experience to know better. And I have no problem with glass half empty people so long as they don’t keep trying to pour that half empty glass on dreamers.
  22. Nope. It is not a matter of doing it right or wrong. Cub scouting and boy scouting are two very different activities. Most kids who like cub scouts end up not liking boy scouts. That's just the way it is.
  23. EBOR question

    I always thought the change was to ensure youth protection guidelines were still followed; no more, no less. Still the Life Scout's responsibility for the project. But an adult cannot allow scouts to use chainsaws and just say, "it isn't a troop activity".
  24. Yesterday
  25. Then you are doing it wrong. Barry
  26. For some parents, it's apparently speed.At last nite's meeting, one of the helicopter parents commented how her son needs a SMC to have his Second Class BOR next week. This is the same mom who A) commented on FCFY 2 weeks ago and I old her it more important for skills than an arbitrary time line and B) whose son has snuck into his dad's tent on several occasions, won't stay in a tent unless dad stays with him until he falls asleep, or just whines and complains until he goes home.
  27. Job opening at National

    Hanlon's razor
  28. EBOR question

    Mea culpa. What happens if there are no scouts helping with the Eagle project?
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    • Myriad of issues here, but the headline about fighting changes to state’s Hidden Predator Act is not favorable to the program -  the Boy Scouts said they “strongly support certain parts of HB 605, which would reform the civil statute of limitations for child abuse giving survivors more time to pursue justice. We do not support it in its current form, however, because it does not strengthen efforts that experts agree can help keep children safe and includes provisions that would hinder the ability of youth-serving organizations to protect the children they serve.” http://www.myajc.com/news/crime--law/boy-scouts-among-groups-fighting-changes-state-hidden-predator-act/lJ5sDKg4tROfpQf9abQcAK/
    • I'd be surprised if the district would...but not terribly surprised if you found another unit willing to help....although I can't imagine that being overly convenient. OH, i remembered the other thing the pack had to store.... a couple rain gutters I bought and donated to the pack for a simple regatta pack meeting.  I wonder if they were ever used again??  That was a loud and high energy pack meeting   Everything else we had lived in the small pack trailer. I'm still struggling to think of much that the troop has to store out of the trailer.  The only thing I can think of is the troop flag and the log that has holes drilled to hold candles for their COH.  I never understood the scouts liking that ceremony...I suspect it was mom invented, and mom encouraged.
    • @walk in the woods....Stegasaurus Husbandry? The neighbors complained about all the noise on friday night.
    • I had to work hard to pass the swim test too. Made me more sympathetic to the youth who struggle and it was good for the boys to see the old guys had challenges too. I too had some Scouting goals....I had to lose weight to participate (my doc holds that annual physical over my head every year  ) and doing 60 miles on the AT was a real physical challenge. I am  a slow bit consistent hiker (hence the 'Turtle' in the handle)  always bringing up the rear. It can be a humbling experience but I believe their is great virtue in humility and it pays off in authenticity when I am out with some of the boys. Another goal for me was to make Scoutmaster training at Woodruff SR. I had to be persistent over a couple of years to get a slot the week I was there but it really benefited me as a Scouter. I am very proud of my training patch, probably as proud as some of my academic or career achievements. It reminds me that some of the "requirements" can be a personal challenge for some boys and it varies by individual --some it is organizational, mental, inter-relational, physical, or phobias. Sorry for ramble @5thGenTexan...Scout On! 
    • I feel the same about dangerous people. Come election time, we often hear that the US has more incarcerated/institutionalized than any other nation, perhaps too many of certain "classifications" and not enough of other "classifications".
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