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  2. Heritage up in PA has a Scouter Service Patch earned by helping in a Scout activity among other things. One of our neighboring Districts asked me to do WoodTools at their IOLS, which I did to good effect. The IOLS leadership said, "and of course, everyone will earn the Totin' Chip" and were surprised when I reminded them that Totin' Chip is a Scout award, not an adult award. I said folks would know how it is done, and have a chance to "practice" but there would be no TC patch awarded.... I have not been asked to help again.....
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  4. During the lockdown and dreaming about hitting the trail, I've had a few conversations with Scouting folks about backpacking towels. I tend to keep two of the shamwow type towels in my pack. They do the job, dry quickly, and soak up quite a bit. I've used traditional cotton towels, but recommend these type of towels for backpacking. Having been to Philmont a few times with a different towel each time, I'm interested in what you use or tell your scouts are best.
  5. 7. The calmer, more obedient types stayed home. 8. A more heterogeneous society than many. 9. Taught for two generations with public money that the present economic and political systems are evil so their rules are not worthy of obedience. "Burn it down!" 10. Societal value of youth, inexperience, and ignorance over age, experience and knowledge. E.G. "Tear down that statute Of Frederick Douglass - Black Lives Matter!" 11. Told for three generations that "You deserve more free stuff, and someone else should pay for it.," a belief that such is "justice."
  6. Look for a local watershed and maybe he could do a stream/waterway cleanup. That might be cooler than trail clearing. Also, check with same or with municipal or county parks department to see if they would be interested in a bio blitz of a particular property. That's a cool project and totally covid friendly. Ditto bat or bird boxes. He might also build signage for an organization in support of a conservation project, such as stay on the trail, etc. See if a nature center wants help setting up a nature cam for their web site if he's techy.
  7. I would guess a bankruptcy judge has power to void such a "gift". However, at least in my own Council, I don't see anything like that going on. What has happened to camps includes: Being allowed to revert back to the original donor, where the original gift was with conditions (a small camp, no waterfront, donated by the Kiwanis Club) Sold to a housing-developer, and houses built on it (part of one camp already, that may be what happens to the other half after it closes; the nearest YMCA camp also has a development of 5-to-15-year-old houses on what was probably a big chunk of the original parcel.) Leased or sold for mineral extraction. If a council sells a camp in an arm's-length transaction and puts the money in the bank, the creditors/plaintiffs shouldn't have anything to complain about: either they get the land (and have to sell it themselves) before the sale, or they get the cash afterward.
  8. No graffiti here in rural Virginia. Yes, it is for the Citizenship in the Community merit badge, so the 8 hours have to be to one org. I'll give him some ideas about outside clean up, but it is July, so very hot and humid. There are a few trails around here, so maybe that would work too. Our troop has sort of adopted part of a trail locally anyway.
  9. 4. the US is in general a freer society, in the sense of negative freedoms, at least for now, therefore more people are likely to make bad choices 5. The US places, or at least used to place, a higher value on personal responsibility and accountability. 6. People in the US are more likely to flaunt government over-regulation of their personal life choices. Comparing the US to individual countries in the EU is an apples to oranges comparison even if using rates. It would be more appropriate to compare the US to the entire EU for a legitimate comparison just on a population and diversity basis.
  10. @TMSM @revdmv topicNorthern Tier Route - Moose Lake to where moved to Camping and High Adventure
  11. Might not get many replies here in the sub category of equipment. When we did our trip we went, Moose, Sucker, Birch, Knife, then looped back through Kekekabic, Strup, Wisini(sp), Gerund, Fraser, Thomas,Hatchet, Ima, Jordan, Ashigan, Ensign, Sucker, Moose Ima lake was a highlight, there is an island with two camp sites, the eastern facing camp has a fantastic sunset vantage. Plus a great spot for star gazing.
  12. Imagine the surprise if you went to camp and found your ex-wife as a leader in an adjacent campsite. If you need to get away, go on staff. That is a longer stay and better yet, go out of council.
  13. Boy Scout Troop 174 and the VFW (Newville, PA) planted 400 pounds of seed potatoes during two days in the middle of May, and hope to harvest 3,000 pounds for the food bank by the fall. Don Flagle, Commander of VFW, said last month the Scouts were tasked with removing large rocks and weeds from the garden, straightening the irrigation line, hilling the potatoes and repositioning the sunflowers that are also planted in the field, when harvested the potatoes are divided into 5-pound bags for the food bank to distribute to those in need in the community. “We thought it would be great to get the boys involved in the planting and harvesting,” Scoutmaster Gordon Holl noted. More details and photos at source link http://www.shipnc.com/valley_times_star/free_announcements/article_842f150c-c092-11ea-94b5-3b619ec4f45e.html
  14. Agreed, although they could research the local park service as the organization.
  15. There was one in OKC a few years back. That shocked me. I guess I just never heard about such things yet thinking on it, it must happen all the time. They just get carted to the medical examiner and it’s marked hear disease, complications from diabetes or such like. Unless the word leaks out that it was exposure, one wouldn’t notice. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of starvation being one
  16. "So now they wander the streets, get arrested in droves and get no treatment til they are jailed again briefly and released." Every Winter around here, several are found dead from hypothermia.
  17. Although I tend to be libertarian, this is one of those areas that free markets has a hard time appropriately dealing with. Having custody over other human beings who are not able or allowed to do anything creates an unsettling opportunities for exploitation and profit incentive that minimize of ignore the social benefits. If prisons and mental hospitals simply warehouse people for payments from the state, the rehabilitation, training, therapies and re-integration is too expensive to achieve profit margins. This isn’t especially about scouting Or it’s current myriad dilemmas but as a matter of civic and ethical responsibility for ones fellow countrymen and women, it can set the example of human worth and how to deal with issues the young will face.
  18. Slave camp huh. Well, that doesn’t surprise me. There will never be a shortage of people ready to destroy things and replace them with nothing or replace them with more cynical objectives. The closest comparison outside of jails and farms are the big state mental hospitals that closed up. The idea was to cut costs, preserve civil and human rights and curb abuses. The alternative was to create community outpatient centers for treatment and support. The places were shut down but the latter never was achieved. So now they wander the streets, get arrested in droves and get no treatment til they are jailed again briefly and released. I think the state hospitals were also self sufficient. But they too were labeled as unfair competition. Private institutions don’t have the same structures in place and I suspect zero incentive for self sufficiency which would give residents focus, structure and some purpose. Once again, a public interest has been swept aside. The consequences have been stigmatized people, transformation to habitual criminals and anything but preservation of a dignified and productive life.
  19. Cuyahoga County, Ohio, [Cleveland and suburbs] murder capital of Ohio, once had a "farm" out on the east end of the county (AKA "Workhouse"). Prisoners worked in the gardens, learned landscape gardening and learned how to farm . It was closed about twenty-five years ago on the grounds that, as most of the inmates were Black, it was a 'slave plantation." Of course, no one asked the inmates, becasue they didn't matter, as is the case with those slaughtered by civilians in today's urban "centers." The acreage was turned ointo large office buildings, hospitals, and an "up scale" shopping center, to the great enrichment of politically-connected "developers." The "developers" wear masks today, as they should have back then.
  20. How about everybody Kelly green? Except for Sea Scouts ... they're too cool in their blue-as-cub-scouts shirts! Truth, @Eagledad, I am kinda "poking the bear." I don't know how much cost saving there is having a different color for those tiny cub uniforms that, like you say, is a thing of pride to grow out of. But, there's not a lot of pride involved in "growing" from tan to green, and in fact I've witnessed some downright arrogance that we could do without. I mean, I am proud to have been a crew advisor because of the positive impact that it made on how I work with youth (Cubs, Scouts, of Venturers). But, I have seen a lot of other adults and older youth arrive at the same place through different channels (e.g., O/A, camp staff, etc ...). So, it's only a partial jest about putting everyone ('cept Sea Scouts) in green.
  21. The need to stock blue shirts and tan shirts in the same sizes, and the need to stock green shirts and tan shirts in the same sizes.
  22. The new color shirt is a powerful incentive for many youth. And, they usually need a new one for growth and age. I don't know what you would be saving. Barry
  23. One handbook per program. One shirt. Nothing is sewn onto the shirt that ever needs to be removed (flag, wosm, aol). No council patch, city and state is fine. In fact, transferring stuff to a larger shirt is something a scout can do in about 10 minutes. As for program features, training, general info, make a wiki and identify volunteer editors, that reflect the program, to make a living document.
  24. In TN we had a penal farm where prisoners actually grew food and worked. The unions put a stop to this as you relate. Unfair competition of state v private sector. There are some changes where non violent offenders learn about horses and work with them. There are other programs that help non violent women reunite with family and get help and aid to get meaningful work. More often it would seem that the attitude is, ‘well jimmy, you’re free now, hope you do well.’ And that’s it. i would say there is definitely a public interest in reintegrating Non violent people who’ve done time. Marketable Skills and trades. Social acceptance and trust is a different issue altogether so having the ability to be a sole proprietor might be a way forward.? Violent offenders and sex offenders are a different issue. I have no useful ideas on that considering the bar for trust would be very high when competing against those without the baggage. These sorts of social issues would serve as cautionary tales against misbehavior...good ones at that. My troop went to police depot to learn what PD did, had police come as part of anti-drug lecture and so forth. That was in the 80’s. These put teeth in the “physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight” part of the oath. Equipping the scouts with universal tools for citizenship, ethical and moral behavior as protective measures is a good thing. The parents and their respective belief systems fill in the gaps. But it seems that is no longer allowed. Dictates and fiats from social forces through national has supplanted that entirely.
  25. How about using the same color shirt across all programs?
  26. Ok you asked. The entire cub uniform from Lion to AOL needs to be reworked. Just last year they changed the wolves from gold to red...why? Lions became the gold rank. Every WEBELO has a tan shirt, but has (you know I'm right) to get a new one as they cross over. Most won't remove cubby stuff as a Scout or Tenderfoot, just buy a different shirt. Lets not talk about each cub rank has its own socks, belt buckle, $15 book, $15 hat, Neckerchief. I'm glad they did away with activity arrowpoints, those were a royal pain. I'm just glad Scouts BSA has one shirt, a neckerchief if the troop decides, belt is usually most any camp's, and one book for about 6 years as a scout in a troop. Everyone is wearing a "class B" uniform on outings as the "field uniform" costs so much, not very practical on outings, and can't replace it cheaply. I too have a love for the Kelly green shirt (with and without a collar). That uniform was pretty simple and you could find backup shirts at most thrift stores. The knee socks had to go. I still put myself through the pain of those socks with garter tabs now and then. Never ever bring back the beret or red trucker cap.
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    • Heritage up in PA has a Scouter Service Patch earned by helping in a Scout activity among other things.  One of our neighboring Districts asked me to do WoodTools at their IOLS, which I did to good effect. The IOLS leadership said, "and of course, everyone will earn the Totin' Chip" and were surprised when I reminded them that Totin' Chip is a Scout award, not an adult award.  I said folks would know how it is done, and have a chance to "practice" but there would be no TC patch awarded....  I have not been asked to help again.....
    • During the lockdown and dreaming about hitting the trail, I've had a few conversations with Scouting folks about backpacking towels.  I tend to keep two of the shamwow type towels in my pack.  They do the job, dry quickly, and soak up quite a bit.  I've used traditional cotton towels, but recommend these type of towels for backpacking.  Having been to Philmont a few times with a different towel each time, I'm interested in what  you use or tell your scouts are best.
    • 7. The calmer, more obedient types stayed home. 8. A more heterogeneous society than many. 9. Taught for two generations with public money  that the present economic and political systems are evil so their rules are not worthy of obedience.  "Burn it down!"   10. Societal value of youth, inexperience, and ignorance over age, experience and knowledge.  E.G. "Tear down that statute  Of Frederick Douglass  - Black Lives Matter!"  11. Told for three generations that  "You deserve more free stuff, and someone else should pay for it.," a belief that such is  "justice."       
    • Look for a local watershed and maybe he could do a stream/waterway cleanup. That might be cooler than trail clearing. Also, check with same or with municipal or county parks department to see if they would be interested in a bio blitz of a particular property.  That's a cool project and totally covid friendly. Ditto bat or bird boxes. He might also build signage for an organization in support of a conservation project, such as stay on the trail, etc.  See if a nature center wants help setting up a nature cam for their web site if he's techy.
    • I would guess a bankruptcy judge has power to void such a "gift".  However, at least in my own Council, I don't see anything like that going on.  What has happened to camps includes: Being allowed to revert back to the original donor, where the original gift was with conditions (a small camp, no waterfront, donated by the Kiwanis Club) Sold to a housing-developer, and houses built on it (part of one camp already, that may be what happens to the other half after it closes; the nearest YMCA camp also has a development of 5-to-15-year-old houses on what was probably a big chunk of the original parcel.) Leased or sold for mineral extraction. If a council sells a camp in an arm's-length transaction and puts the money in the bank, the creditors/plaintiffs shouldn't have anything to complain about: either they get the land (and have to sell it themselves) before the sale, or they get the cash afterward.
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