Changing "Avowed" ruling to broader context?

For a while now, it has occurred to me that the context of "avowed" in the National Policy regarding Gay leaders is part of the problem. Not only does it leave a lot of room for interpretation; but, it also opens up the question of whether it would make more sense if it was not just applied to Gays, but also to drug users, alcoholics, "free love" idealist, blatant adulterers, and so on. It has been indirectly touched on by various people over the past year, but not really discussed. Any thoughts on this?

Just be patient. The list of "undesirables" is slowly growing. Fat guys were just added.

Well, now that I'm on "THE LIST" for being a fat guy, I may as well try that "free love" thing!

Peace love and halter tops baby!

Perhaps the dreaded Wood Badger's should be added to the list of undesireables.

Just the unattractive ones.

When it Comes to Wood Badge, you have to be careful, which Wood Badge do you mean? I mean not all Wood Badge is the same, right?

Oh, you know the course. The one with all the fat, unskilled, millionaire professional, parlor scouters practicing their touchy feely, I'm OK, you're OK, new age, management theory.

While it is fun to poke fun, can someone perhaps comment seriously about this? The question is shouldn't the idea that "avowed" Gays are not suitable for leadership of youth possibly expand to include a broader base of others whose "avowed" life styles or beliefs become a hindrance or distraction? I cannot help but think that the reason, as has been pointed out by so many, that Gays have been in leadership, mostly without our knowledge or concern, is that they have not made it an issue; they have not flaunted it as "the way" to live, nor disrupted the programs with the interference of their choices. The same problem should possibly be addressed in a broader sense in regard to other amoral, illegal, or unhealthy examples displayed to the the youth.

I truly wonder what the thoughts may be on this, or if the usual combatants are too shallow to address it.

Thanks for clearing that up SR540Beaver! I'm in the clear! I took the old course~

>>I truly wonder what the thoughts may be on this, or if the usual combatants are too shallow to address it.

Eagledad;

Guess what I am trying to say, or ask, is; Would the issue of unacceptable leadership example of Gays, as stated by National by the term "avowed", be better accepted if it was applied in a more generic sense, referring to other sources deemed to be poor examples, rather than only to "avowed Gays"? Does that make sense now?

skeptic,

I apologize for helping derail your thread. This is an area that I typically try to avoid. I'm no lawyer and I don't play one on TV and I did not sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night. I'm not sure it makes any difference, but there are few "avowed" drug addicts, alcoholics, free lovers and adulterers asking for to be accepted as an alternate lifestyle. Most folks of those persuasions tend to hide their actions......as do some gays. It is difficult to deny a person something based on their actions if you are unaware of them. For those who proclaim it loud and proud and make it what they are all about, it is a different story. While national may actually target avowed homosexuals, I'm sure 99.9% of units would deny some guy who proudly brags about all the women he sleeps with behind his wife's back or a guy who talks about how great crack is. BSA believes that sexuality is something best taught in the home and church. An avowed homosexual is someone who publically promotes their sexuality as a part of who they are. There are many gay organizations with an agenda. I don't think you can say the same thing about alcoholics or adulterers. Just my opinion and worth the electrons it is veiwed upon.

My disclaimer. I ave gay family members and my best friend from college is gay. I love them dearly. I also support the BSA's ban on avowed homosexuals.

C'mon, skeptic, you're a smart guy. Look at who controls the BSA and it's clear why only Gays and Atheists are on the radar screen.

"An avowed homosexual is someone who publically promotes their sexuality as a part of who they are."

So how comes we never hear about a heterosexual person wearing a wedding ring or mentioning their better half in conversation being described as an "avowed heterosexual"?