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  • #16
    How much do you charge for Christmas tree removal

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    • MattR
      MattR commented
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      We get close to 200 trees and, I believe, over $10/tree, so a little over $2k. If you'd like, I can get you exact numbers. KDD is right, you want to check things out. You also want to do this in neighborhoods where people own their houses. We do a mix of neighborhoods, some nice, some not. We live in a town of 150,000 so we don't get the big city attitude. The idea that someone would limit scouts from selling popcorn if they aren't from your area is, honestly, embarrassing. I'm sure there are people that rip us off. There are also people that really like Boy Scouts. Maybe we're lucky and live in an area with a lot of people that are philanthropic. When we first tried this I said we had to ensure payment and one guy said no, just trust people. Especially around Christmas. He was right.

      Maybe try it on a small scale first. Maybe just 200 flyers. That'll get you maybe 20 trees. Remember, 5 trees will fill up a small pickup. 200 trees is a few very big flatbed trailers with built up sides.

    • Basementdweller
      Basementdweller commented
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      found a mulch company that will take the trees and not charge us. I own a landscaping trailer...so it would just be fuel and printing for expenses. like fishing. Now research the burbs to see which burbs charge for tree removal.

    • 5yearscouter
      5yearscouter commented
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      Just look for burbs that don't have christmas tree pick up day, or bulk pick up right after christmas for people to put their stuff by the road. Some big cities have drop off locations where people can drop their tree, but if they don't have the transportation to get the tree there, they might pay you a few bucks to do it for them.

      You might do ok with christmas tree delivery now that I think about it-- if you have a lot of people who want a live tree but can't get them home cause they don't have a truck or a truck big enough. but I don't know how that would work exactly. you'd have to find a couple christmas tree lots that would let you hang out and offer your services. I know walmart type place would be best, cause the trees are cheapest there, so the extra cost of a few bucks to get the tree delivered to your house --it would have to be we follow you home, paid up front, we only deliver the tree to the doorstep kind of service. Might spend more on gas than you'd make on delivery.

  • #17
    Are there any universities or ball parks that would allow your pack/troop to come in and clean up the day after games? Maybe even after events at county fairgrounds? My university did that, and student organizations got paid for it. It took about hundred people to clean up a 40,000 seat stadium in a couple hours. Just the trash.

    Do you have a county fair or some other community event where you could sell bottled water and sodas? Or even just staff a booth for the event organizers, that way you aren't providing money to buy the beverages and ice?

    And, is any troop over on the rich side of town open to the possibility of your kids, maybe just a few at a time, coming over and working a fundraiser for an equal portion of the profits? Yes, the other troop would be giving up some money, but there's something about being kind, helpful, and friendly in the Scout Law. Do the SMs over there have any idea what your budget struggles are, and how open would you want to be about that?


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    • boomerscout
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      If the parents won't help, maybe you can find some Girl Scouts. There will be two sales periods -- before the game, and after the game.
      Where the hot spots may be:
      "Alright, admittedly tailgating is much easier when you have a car but at Ohio State it doesn’t matter! Between the Ohio Stadium and St. John arena you will find all kinds of vendors available to feed you, entertain you and generally get you excited about Buckeye football. Want a free poster, yep, it’s there. Want a free burger from Wendy’s, on this day, you could have that too. How about a cardboard Buckeye’s football helmet, seems every 30 year old man had to have one of those! Local food vendors offer their specialties and everyone is having fun. If you really want to get in the O-H-I-O spirit, head in to St. John’s Arena. We did not attend the Skull Session going on inside but the music from the band let us know that we will be buying tickets to this event in the future! It is the type of tradition that defines Big Ten football, and apparently Ohio State football, and should not be missed!




      If you want a true party atmosphere, head to Lane Avenue. There is an over 21 year old “tailgate” offered at Village Club. Food, drink and Scarlett and Grey….who needs anything else? If you are not 21 years old or are significantly older than 21 years old and not interested in the type of scene offered at Village Club, many other food and drink offerings are available on Lane Avenue. My favorite by far was the Ray Ray’s Hog Pit barbecue truck. Expensive but exceedingly delicious barbecue. Another vendor offered Brats that would have been the envy of any Wisconsin Badger fan! Fine Midwestern cuisine! This is where you will find lots of Ohio State novelty vendors. My favorite novelty is the Buckeye necklace with plastic red and grey beads. It is a classic and seems to be worn by most of the people we saw."

      The stadium has a new food concessionaire. They allow non-profit groups to work a concession stand for a cut. Contact Levy Restaurants to get your troops name on the list -- maybe your COs name may work better.

    • Basementdweller
      Basementdweller commented
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      The blue jackets also offer nonprofit concession stand.

      But it is a huge commitment. One unit knocks down a rumored $40k per year doing it. But they work 2-3 nights a week for 5 hours per night and the boys cannot participate. kinda defeats the purpose.

    • boomerscout
      boomerscout commented
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      True, the kids won't be involved. But, your troop needs to get off the ground with the camping program you've designed in your mind's eye. Perhaps your CO could use an extra $40k per year. If you spearhead this, you could see that the kitchen gets its commercial grade sinks, send the entire kitchen staff to servsafe, buy the tents the troop needs, fund some Cubs activities, etc

  • #18
    Do you have a meeting place that can handle a few people? do you have anyone in the troop that looks like Santa claus? I'm asking cause we are debating dying my husband's hair the rest of the way white and dressing him up as santa and seeing about a meet santa claus for a few bucks thing at the scout lodge. charge $1-2 at the door. give em a cheap picture of kid with santa, offer better pictures if you can get a good printer and ink cheap. sell some hot cocoa and a cookie and a candy cane.

    Or if you think there is anyone within a close by area that is looking for an hour or two of childcare for cub age kids while they go christmas shopping, you could set up one or two saturday mornings before christmas. again offer a bit of hot cocoa, cookie and a candy cane--add in a cheap christmas craft out of construction paper glue and stuff. you can charge like $10-20/hour in nicer areas, but at least $5-10 most places. If they won't pay $5 for an hour, they are just gonna leave the kid home alone anyway. you may be able to put up a flyer up at the closest/nicest elementary school in the area. you'd have to guarantee a certain number of adults and older boy scouts to supervise, and a contigency plan and collect contact info and signature from parents that if they don't show up by X time the police will be called and a late fee charged. See if the church would support that kind of thing sent out to their members.

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    • #19
      May not be practical for your unit, but we sell Holiday wreaths and greens annually. Despite the fact that several other Troops and Packs sell in this area as well, we netted over $10,000 last year with 26 boys selling.

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      • King Ding Dong
        King Ding Dong commented
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        Our troop does that. Unfortunately $30-$40 for a wreath is to steep for the houses around me. One person bought a swag for $20.

      • scoutergipper
        scoutergipper commented
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        Yeah, you have to choose fundraising activities that make sense for your neighborhood, or be able to travel somewhere closeby where they will make sense. We've also done a pancake breakfast (only $5 a person) but we also had good connections to various folks and had most of the supplies donated.

    • #20
      On the issue of Sharing the Wealth...There will always be some Slackers who never sell that wants a Share of the Money.
      If The Money goes into a General Pool where everyone draws off in Equal shares eventually the Fund Dries up. Why? Because there are those who don't sale and get a Share and those who do all the Work will eventually give up because they are Doing the Work.

      Yes Fund Raising Especially Popcorn sales when it is Done By Everyone at the Same time is Complicated. There is always one Sweet Spot to sale. Around here That Spot is booked up Months in Advance by the same people. They Don't care because it is about their Sales not Yours. Around here Businesses have Started limiting the Number of tmes a Certain Uit can Book Spots to prevent Units from Hogging the Location.

      in My Youth years we Had hamburger Suppers every 3 Month

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      • #21
        Bottom line I don't want a hand out. Simply access to folks outside my unit that have discretionary income.

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        • #22
          I cant understand how people cant differentiate between being social and sharing and full blown communism. There is a lot in between too ...

          Base even posted twice by now that its not about hand outs.

          Thing that gets me smirking and thinking:
          when US Tax $ where given to Banks there wasnt as much of an outcry; try to help the sick and the country stops. Literally. Superpowershutdown.

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          • scoutergipper
            scoutergipper commented
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            Yeah, the distinction's pretty simple - if I'm forced to "donate" money by government fiat, it's bad. If I choose to voluntarily donate my own money, it's good.

          • berliner
            berliner commented
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            the forced donations to the goverment are not donations, thats called taxes ^o^

          • Nike
            Nike commented
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            I can be social and share on my own thank you. And, there was quite an outcry about giving all that money to the banks and certain special corporations. No one listened, just like no one wanted to listen to the populace saying, "Yeah, let's take a step back for a minute and look at this," when it came to ACA. Parts of it are very popular. Parts are not.

            Many, probably most, Americans don't want to see those with real medical need left out in the cold without care. However, without tort/legal reform, we aren't going to ever have any effect on the price of medical care.

        • #23
          Originally posted by Basementdweller View Post
          Bottom line I don't want a hand out. Simply access to folks outside my unit that have discretionary income.
          You Do..
          Trails End has a Place to set up Personal Sales online for Free which you can advertise the Link Year Around.
          Your Unit Members can announce your sales our Personal Facebook accounts.
          I Announced our Sales On Facebook on the Local TV Stations pages for Free.
          I announced It On Area Radio Stations pages for Free...They even announced it for Free on Air all Day Long.
          I announced it on the City's Facebook Page for Free.

          I made a Flyer in JPG form and I Shared it on Facebook..And People Shared it on their pages..I shared it in Area Facebook Trading Posts...

          We had No problem trying to Sale in a "Bad" location late in the Sales Period..One Unit Complained because they say People heard our free ads on Radio and bought from us and told them already bought besides

          Sometimes you have to be your Own Promoter.

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          • Basementdweller
            Basementdweller commented
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            Our council does not sell trails end.

          • boomerscout
            boomerscout commented
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            You could sell Trails End a week or two before Council promotes "their" popcorn, and just send Council their "share"

        • #24
          The amount of money raised is directly proportional to the effort put into it. This is one of the basic tenets of business. Either I set up a trap or I go out and beat the bushes. Everyone needs to decide how they are going to go about that.

          The second tenet to consider is: Know your market. If one lives in an affluent community, maybe high-end popcorn is the ticket. But in a different neighborhood, those dynamics just aren't going to work. Get out there and market the neighborhoods. Find out what they want and then get it to them. Elderly neighborhood? How's about some snow shoveling, leaf raking, lawn mowing. Older homes may need winter storms put on. Maybe someone needs their house winterized. A 2 day job for them could be done in a couple of hours with enough hands on deck. Shopping for the shut ins? Sure, why not.

          Oh, but that takes time, effort, and a major commitment. Yes it does. But do you want the money or not? Maybe it's time to seek out something more than the low-hanging fruit.

          People are willing to pay for things that are necessary for them. Get off the sofa and out of the parlor and find out what that is and get it for them. It's a fundraiser for you, but it's a service project for them.

          Stosh

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          • jblake47
            jblake47 commented
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            There are homeless people who make more money than I do panhandling. I'm not suggesting that as an option, but a little creativity can go a long way.

            Stosh

          • boomerscout
            boomerscout commented
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            JBlake:
            How much do you make panhandling?

          • jblake47
            jblake47 commented
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            Caught me on that one. Can't be dangling my participles on this forum.

            Love it!

            Stosh

        • #25
          Basement Dweller, I got Empathy for you. .

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